the problem is, is that there is to many things someone can do that are not logged and can not be logged.
ie; scout distracts players off the last point and dies but makes it so a spy can slip in and BS the distracted players and cap the point. Now with that the scout would actually be losing "skill" by using a stats program because he died and other gained points for killing him and the spy would go up because he did the kills and caped it, but without the scout to do the distraction he would have never capped the points. These things are not taken into account and in so using a stats based way to show ones skill furthers goes with the notion that teamwork is something not to be done in a game. HoundDawg wrote: > Not sure why not all of my posts are reaching the list yet. I had > mentioned that really the only way to get a true balancer is to base it > on history, such as stats. I also had mentioned that the formula would > have to based on ratios and percentages, as well as include non-frag > stats like sapping, bonking, teleporting, etc.. > > Without a complete stats picture and basing team balance on historical > player data, no team balance addon is going to come close. If you base > it on only the current session, you'll end up with very skilled players > just joining the server, right before the scramble, with the high > probability of having an even greater stacked team. I see it happen all > the time. > > Using a formula based on ratios and percentages, it really doesn't > matter how long the player has been on, but at least it'll know the > regulars, which are most important anyway. Non-frag stats are an issue > with current scrambles based on the scoreboard anyway. I haven't looked > yet, but this is largely dependent upon how much statistic data Valve is > exposing to the logs. > > HoundDawg > > > CLAN RCR wrote: > >> ^^^ >> Truth. >> >> -Matt >> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Because one based on stats wouldn't work either. >>> >>> Stats are pretty inaccurate as far as an actual player's skill goes anyway. >>> You don't see that guy who sets up a teleporter and teleports 100 people to >>> the front lines or the guy that airblasts that uber back, or that guy who >>> distracts the entire enemy team so you can get the cart capture without >>> resistance. >>> >>> Also then you have new players that join your server that have different >>> actual skills and they're lumped into the "crap" players. >>> >>> We don't have team balancers on our servers, just limits on the amount of >>> rolls possible for each map. Just because a team won't defend or don't want >>> to use teamwork doesn't mean the teams are stacked. >>> >>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:28 PM, CLAN RCR <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
