many people use that achievement unlocker in slow fashion and even quick
fashion and dont have their weapons removed so yea. As to someone mentioning
tf2 using gpu, if you run the game minimized gpu is not used at all and runs
idle the only drawback of running tf2 minimized vs not at all is memory
usage by the system. cpu usage is about 1% and gpu no more than in 2d
windows mode when you run tf2 minimized idle on any server.

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Clyde cide <[email protected]>wrote:

> Its an interesting debate, although Valve did not Vac Ban the weapon
> unlocker they just removed the weapons, so I am on the fence wether or not
> they would Vac on this one. my gut says they wouldnt and the kid in that
> post got picked off for another cheat, perhaps one they didnt know about.
> I.E. a friend that knows his log on and runs it from a different machine
>
> On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Mike Stiehm <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I agree
> >
> > Kenny Loggins
> > ClanAO.com
> >
> > On May 31, 2009, at 4:38 PM, SakeFox <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > there is a difference. one you are actually running tf2. another your
> > > just running a outside application to emulate running the game.
> > >
> > > really this thread should just be stopped since its just going to turn
> > > into a flame war and the end results will be the people that use it
> > > wont
> > > think its cheating while people that don't think it is.
> > >
> > > Philip Bembridge wrote:
> > >> Valve: feel free to block the program, but please PLEASE after the
> > >> weapon
> > >> drop probabilities are geared towards playing well.. similar to the
> > >> crit
> > >> calculation!!
> > >>
> > >> @ cc2iscool: is this program any different to sitting idle in a
> > >> server? then
> > >> sitting in an idle server is cheating... if so, how are you going
> > >> to strip
> > >> their achieves? You can't strip one without stripping the other
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