I also this these issues

the cmdline parameter i think is -serve browser 
-----Original message-----
From: Robert Whelan [email protected]
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:34:06 -0400
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Timeout On Mapchange

> Yeah, I understand and have used the ms_force cvar though trying to explain 
> it allĀ to a mixed community can be quite tedious. Up until 2 updates ago 
> everything was fine, thenĀ Valve broke it.
> 
> You commented "I use the command line parameter in Steam that adds the 
> "Server Browser" to the menu options"
> 
> What cmdline parameter?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 9:27:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Timeout On Mapchange
> 
> Oh, I use the command line parameter in Steam that adds the "Server Browser" 
> to the menu options, which makes it so Steam group servers aren't listed at 
> all on the menu. I start a lobby, set things up, then use a config file with 
> the following lines in it to join my server (you can also type the commands 
> manually), then start the game from the Lobby: 
> 
> sv_cheats 1 
> ms_force_dedicated_server ip:port 
> 
> As long as you have your Steam group and exclusive cvars set properly, you 
> can always join your Steam group server. I have never used the search key to 
> join my servers. This also has the added advantage of returning you to the 
> lobby when the campaign is over to set up another game. 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert Whelan" <[email protected]> 
> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" 
> <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:12:44 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Timeout On Mapchange 
> 
> Refer to the other topics I mentioned for more detail... 
> 
> I could have 6 l4d servers going and they'd all be listed in the 'steam group 
> servers' area. From the lobby we could use the search key to play a campaign 
> though once we do all the servers would no longer be listed under 'steam 
> group servers'. On the other hand... the same 6 servers over time would 
> gradually drop off the list of 'steam group servers' regardless. 
> 
> This leaves one alternative... connect directly which is a PITA when your 
> trying to assemble a game of versus. 
> 
> This happens with or without (vanilla) addons 
> 
> /* off topic, sry */ 
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