Its just that steam will use at most 2 connections to content servers, high bandwidth-delay product, windows tcp settings and packet loss (tcp is very sensitive at high data rates). Upload bandwidth is also important, if the ratio of download to upload is high, ~1:20 and higher, then with default windows settings there is not enough upload bandwidth to send all acknowledgment packets to reach maximum download bandwidth. If you're on windows xp try http://tepeserwery.pl/wscale.reg (needs restart, will only help for high bdp not packet loss or upload bw).
Michael Krasnow wrote: > same here on the normal optimum home plan i get 1.5 down also but it if i am > downloading multiple games it shares the 1.5 over all the games. > > On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Karl Weckstrom <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I've seen Steam download at >10MB/sec with optonline (though thats via the >> steam client). hldsupdatetool on the other hand? lots of luck. >> >> Interestingly enough, when you configure your servers to properly >> autoupdate, it appears to move way faster than using hldsupdatetool, at >> least on my 4 FIOS servers. >> >> Also, FIOS is in a very, VERY limited area. I happen to be very lucky to >> live in an area where it's Cablevision and Verizon trying to get my business >> (so I give 'em BOTH my business since they are services that oddly enough >> complement each other). >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Fleener >> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:13 PM >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You >> >> If you can try FiOS (mine is from Verizon) 20/5MB. It can pull over >> 3MB/s from Microsoft and other large boys. I think Steam must limit >> download speeds as I average 1.5 and I have had 3 systems downloading at >> the same time and they all were getting around 1.5. >> >> >> Mike Fleener >> Macaw Enterprises >> 503.692.8026 (office) >> 503.312.4568 (cell) >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ook >> Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 2:43 PM >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You >> >> Comcast is evil. The aup/tos prevents you from so much as passing gas >> when using the service, heaven forbid I might actually do something that >> consumes excessive bandwidth. They give you bandwidth but don't you dare >> actually use any of it. Unless you have their very badly overpriced >> business class service. Then you get good service, pay too much for it, >> and their support people are retarded. Comcast is todays AOL. >> >> I have 10Mbps/768k. DSL. And more then adequate to host 16 people in my >> OP4 server. All unblocked, all mine to max out 24/7. I get max bandwidth >> of 10mbps when downloading from Steam. And it costs me $50 a month (or >> is it $60? I forget...). I do wish I had more upload speed. 768k is >> nice, but more would be better. To be honest, I don't really need 10mbps >> down. It was the only way to get the 768k up in the package. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Cc2iscooL" <[email protected]> >> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 3:12 PM >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You >> >> >>> You have to realize that some people just don't need a 100 mbit line >>> to their house (though it'd be neat.) >>> >>> 6mbit/768k is just fine with me. Bet you I pay a whole lot less too >>> unless you work for them. Sure uploads take a bit longer but when you >>> download stuff directly to a box instead of uploading it... It really >>> doesn't matter. >>> >>> Not to mention Comcast 15mbit is bursted unless you have a business >>> line, oh and don't forget about that download cap! >>> >>> On 7/25/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> What puny speeds... Comcast speed: 15mbit/5mbit FTW! :) >>>> >>>> I usually average about 1.5 MB/sec when transfering files. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Cc2iscooL" <[email protected]> >>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 5:10:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Group Banning And You >>>> >>>> It is possible to DDoS from even an aircard, it's been done to a >> server >>>> of >>>> mine, so even the cheapest of (non-cellular) connections could >> perform a >>>> DDoS attack. Maybe not dial-up, but you get my drift. >>>> >>>> Also, I have 6mbit/768k SBC DSL, I did not realize I had "crappy >>>> internet." >>>> Thank you for enlightening me that my connection is crappy. I'll be >> sure >>>> to >>>> buy a connection from Comcast or Hughesnet soon. </sarcasm> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Cc2iscooL >>>> Head Admin/Owner >>>> http://www.cc2iscool.com >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 3:43 PM, DontWannaName! >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> I didnt even know sbcglobal DSL was good enough to DDOS haha... just >>>>> tell >>>>> him he has crappy internet and to shut up. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Violent Crimes < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Here is another one attacking servers and now me personally >>>>>> >>>>>> <Badt0uch_> >.> >>>>>> <Badt0uch_> <.> >>>>>> <Badt0uch_> <.< >>>>>> - >>>>>> Badt0uch_ is [email protected] >> * >>>>>> Dr.Badtouch aka Feelgood >>>>>> Badt0uch_ on #zombiepanic #neotokyo >>>>>> Badt0uch_ using *.GameSurge.net The GameSurge IRC Network >>>>>> Badt0uch_ End of /WHOIS list. >>>>>> - >>>>>> <Violent_Crimes> What do you want >>>>>> <Badt0uch_> I get a responce eh? Hahahaha...why are you so hostile >>>>>> towards me whenever I join your servers/vent XD? >>>>>> <Violent_Crimes> I have nothing to say to you >>>>>> <Violent_Crimes> What do you want >>>>>> <Badt0uch_> Im asking you a question, this is what I want an >> answer. >>>>>> <Violent_Crimes> You know what I don't like you good day >>>>>> <Badt0uch_> You're servers are ddos proof my ass >>>>>> <Badt0uch_> We will see pin prick >>>>>> <Badt0uch_> >>>>>> <Badt0uch_> byw >>>>>> >>>>>> His IP Address: 99.16.7.143 >>>>>> >>>>>> Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:17763564 >>>>>> >>>>>> Violent Crimes wrote: >>>>>>> This IP tried to DDOS attack me today >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here is the ip. 70.74.68.168 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Traced it back to this steam id STEAM_0:0:12865230 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Link to stats page I found to trace it to him >>>>>>> >> http://stats.pingdemons.com/cs/player.php?id=194&vsort=kills&vorder=asc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kyle Sanderson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm in a couple community groups myself for some Torrent Sites, >>>>>>>> Should >>>>> I >>>>>>>> leave and warn everyone in the group that some server admins >> are >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ignorant? Seriously? The Myg0t groups and actual hacking groups >>>>>>>> that's >>>>> a >>>>>> no >>>>>>>> brainier and you will have everyone's support here. But banning >>>>>> community >>>>>>>> groups who share a common interest that has nothing to do with >>>>>>>> games >>>>>> what so >>>>>>>> ever? Please, it is the same as banning The Teamwork Movement >> group >>>>> from >>>>>>>> your server... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kyle. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 12:39 PM, D4rKr0W >> <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cc2iscooL ha scritto: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Haxxor witch hunt. >>>>>>>>>> OH EM GEE IN HAXOR GROUP MUST BE HAXOR LOL BAN. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I prefer to wait until they actually do that kind of thing, >> as >>>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> groups >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> like that just do mass invites and/or people are just >> retarded >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> access to the cheats they're looking for. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not to mention stuff like Kyle here. Warez =/= hack users. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Most of the guys that you're banning probably don't even use >>>>>>>>>> hacks. Oh well, if you want to be lazy I guess this thread is >>>>>>>>>> good >>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Like right now I >>>>>>>>>> could make a totally awesome group teh computer haxors on >> Steam >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> you guys would ban me even if I never used hacks and the >> group >>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>> just for the fun of it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Whether these guys actually have bad intentions or are just >> plain >>>>> dumb, >>>>>>>>> i don't really care, both of these are good enough excuses not >> to >>>>> want >>>>>>>>> them ruining my games, assuming they'll ever join the servers >> i >>>>>>>>> take >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> care of. Plus, i think we already have our hands full with >> buggy >>>>>>>>> gameservers, buggy games, angry teenagers and all the lovely >>>>>>>>> things >>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> come out from the mix of these three things. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> archives, >>>>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>> >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> -- >>> Cc2iscooL >>> Head Admin/Owner >>> http://www.cc2iscool.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
