At last speaks the voice of reason.

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From: "Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 12:36 PM
To: "'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'" 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem

> This is why some people just make their own admin tools.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ics
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 6:45 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
>
> If we really go back to 2003 (or let's say 2004 when cs source and
> mani-admin came out), there was no other options back then than
> Mani-admin and BeetlesMod. Not for like over a year. There was metamod
> and some talks about rewriting it completely which i think happened
> later on and thus Sourcemod is here now.
>
> Mani-admin was a good plugin, very user friendly (not so install
> friendly but everyone got it running who really wanted it), had multiple
> things to make game fun. Votes, punishments, weapon restrictions, you
> know what else. Maybe it's "shit" in some people eyes but it was there
> when there was nothing else and still is a fairly good plugin. Elitists
> seem to diss it the most. Really, it was free, you don't have to use it
> if you dislike it.. Have some respect for the work of others?
>
> Also remember it was made by just one guy. Sourcemod has now like 50
> people behind it who make smx plugins into it so naturally it develops
> more and things get fixed quickly.
>
> If really Sourcemod is these days the one and only and all server owners
> should move into it, maybe Sourcemod lacks something that Mani-admin
> has.No, not the exploits. 1.2T fixed those afaik. If there is one, it
> doesn't work with sv_cheats 0.
>
> -ics
>
> 23.2.2010 5:47, msleeper kirjoitti:
>> And SourceMod has been out for how long? And has done all of that and
>> more from the beginning, right?
>>
>> 2003 called and wants it's server administration software back. Stick
>> with SM, nobody worth their salt uses Mani.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 22:43 -0500, Keeper wrote:
>>
>>> It's been for a while.  The next version ( 2.0 ) we are working on is
> going
>>> to be more modular, and will be game based instead of one plugin fits
> all.
>>> It will work for L4D2 down to HL2MP.
>>>
>>> Keeper
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Matthew Gottlieb [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 7:07 PM
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Mani site down / DNS problem
>>>
>>> Since when is Mani Open Source?  My main issues with Mani has always
>>> been that it was closed source and was rarely updated.
>>>
>>> ~ Matt
>>>
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