Just to clear something out, as Keeper said, the latest version of 
Mani-admin isn't vulnerable. Sourcemod is as vulnerable as Mani-admin is 
without additional plugins, such as D-FENS, against the exploits within 
the Source engine.

-ics

2.7.2010 10:03, Joshua 'Dislexsick' Bost kirjoitti:
> I don't disagree with that.  The OP came asking how to secure his server 
> running mani, the answer was that mani has been compromised or can be 
> compromised, the OP was then given alternatives, and reasons to use the 
> alternatives. At no point did I say he has to use it or that mani is 
> bad/evil/whatever, merely that SM can be made to look and feel like mani, in 
> case he was hesitant to switch...
>
> I stand by my statement about binding keys though...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 02/07/2010, at 2:04 PM, ics<[email protected]>  wrote:
>
>    
>> This petty and childish fight is unnecessary. People use what they want
>> and what they like.
>>
>> -ics
>>
>> 2.7.2010 0:12, Joshua 'Dislexsick' Bost kirjoitti:
>>      
>>> The thing is, he's quite right here. Even the chat triggers can be changed 
>>> readily, which seems to be the biggest hurdle for ex-Mani users. If your 
>>> admins aren't confident with chat commands or console commands they can use 
>>> sm_admin.  If they can't bind a key to sm_admin get better admins
>>>
>>> Obnoxiously Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 02/07/2010, at 4:58 AM, msleeper<[email protected]>   wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Everything Mani can do, SourceMod can do better.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 15:25 -0400, Keeper wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> Maybe not your plugin of choice, but it's served many server operators 
>>>>> well
>>>>> over the years.
>>>>>
>>>>> I forgot about that SRCDS_Hardening.  That's a good read for any server
>>>>> operator.  Plus it provides links to solutions.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: msleeper [mailto:[email protected]]
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:16 PM
>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] CS:S recommended anti-cheat plugins?
>>>>>
>>>>> I hate to tell you this buddy, but Mani stopped being the admin plugin
>>>>> of choice a couple years ago. What is it with the CS:S community and
>>>>> thinking that Mani is still useful? I recommend you go install Metamod +
>>>>> SourceMod, and stop running an ancient plugin on your servers.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for actual security stuff, you are pretty safe installing most of the
>>>>> plugins listed here: http://wiki.alliedmods.net/SRCDS_Hardening
>>>>>
>>>>> I say "most" because this article doesn't feature KAC
>>>>> (http://forums.alliedmods.net/forumdisplay.php?f=133), which is a killer
>>>>> security/anti-cheat plugin and has replaced some - but not all - of the
>>>>> functionality listed on that Wiki article.
>>>>>
>>>>> Welcome to the future. It's nice here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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