Don't get "burstable" RAM (burstable = shared) and ask questions about the HD. It really seems like all the file I/O for srcds is single threaded, so if the file I/O stalls too long you'll get lag spikes.
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:53 PM, John <[email protected]> wrote: > Nomy, that's the conventional wisdom about VPSes, and the many levels of > sharing that you're describing may be true at many VPS providers (any > company with "burstable" RAM would be an example of one to avoid for a game > server), but it's also possible to dedicate CPU cores and memory to each > VPS. When this is combined with a high-performance virtualization platform > such as Xen, and various tweaks are applied, such as PV-on-HVM drivers and > the use of stubdoms, it's possible to get performance that's very close to > bare hardware. If a game server wouldn't have problems on a regular > dedicated server, it wouldn't have a problem on one of these well-configured > virtual servers, either. > > The disk and network are still shared, but game servers don't actually use > the disk much, and modern gigE network adapters have functionality built in > that makes them perform at near line-rate for virtualized machines. > > -John > > > On 12/7/2010 11:23 AM, ]HeLL[ Nomy wrote: > >> There is nothing wrong with virtualisation as long as you use it for web >> servers etc... Not some busy game servers... because the CPU and the RAM >> is >> SHARED. The network connection on the parent machine is also shared across >> other VPSs. Some GSP advertise that their VPS can handle game servers very >> well. Thats just BS IMO. >> >> If your friend is running CSS, TF2 and Gmod servers on 1 VPS, they wont >> lag >> if empty or with few players on. Once they gain popularity, that's when >> the >> lag hits all 3 gameservers. >> >> If you are on a tight budget, get game server slots, works out alot >> cheaper >> than a VPS. >> >> On 7 December 2010 18:49,<[email protected]> wrote: >> >> There's nothing wrong with virtualization, you get what you pay for. My >>> buddy is renting a vps from NFO, and he's running a tf2, gmod and css >>> server. Netgraph doesn't show any choke, and the fps's remain >>> consistent. >>> I honestly do believe it's advanced far enough to actually be useful in >>> this manner, so why not take advantage of it if you're running on a tight >>> budget? >>> Sent from my BlackBerry® phone powered by Koodo Mobile®. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: "]HeLL[ Nomy"<[email protected]> >>> Sender: [email protected] >>> Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:42:46 >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list< >>> [email protected]> >>> Reply-To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>> <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help. >>> >>> http://www.gtxgaming.co.uk/dedicated-servers >>> Pretty good price... hosted in good datacentre... >>> Don't get the VPS tho but some people like laggy servers they can get VPS >>> :) >>> >>> On 7 December 2010 17:52, Graham M<[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Probably 1and1? >>>> >>>> >>>> On 07/12/2010 17:30, Drogen Viech wrote: >>>> >>>> A german provider?! Please tell us which one it is :O >>>>> (Or me, in a personal e-mail, if you don't want to advertise hosting >>>>> companies in here). >>>>> >>>>> 2010/12/7 Dominik Friedrichs<[email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>> Just as a note, I'm running a CS:S and TF2 on a VPS from a >>>>>> professional/reputable German provider, I admit there are times with >>>>>> >>>>> lags >>> >>>> but those are very rare. Its a great compromise for 30 Euros a month, >>>>>> >>>>> as >>> >>>> compared to their cheapest dedicated wich is around 80 Euros. >>>>>> But its always a little bit of a gambling when trying out new >>>>>> >>>>> providers, >>> >>>> thats for sure. Good thing is, some allow you to try out a VPS for a >>>>>> certain >>>>>> time for free. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shane Arnold"< >>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> To: "Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list" >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 16:35 >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and >>>>>> >>>>>>> decent >>>>>>> hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And until the day every other VPS provider follows this mindset, >>>>>>> VPS's >>>>>>> will always be unsuitable for the demand a high-usage game server >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> put >>>>>>> on it. It's all well and good flogging the NFO horse, but give it a >>>>>>> rest. A >>>>>>> dedicated server will always outperform a VPS equivalent of the same >>>>>>> spec. >>>>>>> I'd recommend simply renting a server instead of the VPS or dedicated >>>>>>> solution. It's a lot of investment for a game server. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 07/12/2010 11:27 PM, Oh Noes! wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This isn't the case when using certain virtualization software and >>>>>>>> decent >>>>>>>> hardware, while giving dedicated resources to the servers. I didn't >>>>>>>> believe >>>>>>>> it was possible to do well with a virtual server either, until I saw >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> it >>> >>>> done >>>>>>>> at nfoservers.com. We have 3 TF2 servers running without problems >>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> a >>> >>>> hyperthreaded 2 core virtual server from NFO. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Oh Noes! >>>>>>>> MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin >>>>>>>> MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of ]HeLL[ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nomy >>> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:15 AM >>>>>>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Help. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dont get a Virtual Server... all it will do is lag, that's why its >>>>>>>> cheaper >>>>>>>> to get one.... Dont believe people or websites when they say its >>>>>>>> possible >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> host game servers virtually... You can host it virtually a laggy >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> server >>> >>>> if >>>>>>>> that's what you want... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Get a Dedicated Server with good specs and use it to host your game >>>>>>>> server. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 7 December 2010 14:51, Oh Noes!<[email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Setting up your server's IP address to appear as your domain can be >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> done >>>>>>>>> through your name servers of your web hosting. However, if you wish >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> to >>> >>>> run >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> server that doesn't use up your own resources, you will need to pay >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>> additional host through another type of company; called a game >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> server >>> >>>> provider. You'll have to make some decisions like anon said and then >>>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>>> the separate purchase for a hosted game server. I like >>>>>>>>> http://www.nfoservers.com as well; they are pricey, but they beat >>>>>>>>> every >>>>>>>>> other provider that I've personally looked at in service, quality, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and >>> >>>> features. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Oh Noes! >>>>>>>>> MAX POWER Gaming: Senior Admin >>>>>>>>> MAX POWER - Voltage: Clan Leader >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Muhammad >>>>>>>>> Ali >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 6:23 AM >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] Help. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am using Window XP and want to host my own game server on linux, >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> rented >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> a domain and it is providing me unlimited space, so i want to >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> remotely >>> >>>> run >>>>>>>>> HLDS.exe on it so that the ip address of my hlds is the same as my >>>>>>>>> domain >>>>>>>>> and my window resources are not used and if i sutdown my window the >>>>>>>>> server >>>>>>>>> keep on running. but i don't know how to do it so please help me... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> archives, >>> >>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> archives, >>> >>>> please visit: >>>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> archives, >>> >>>> please visit: >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> archives, >>> >>>> please visit: >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>>> please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
