I think is Valve should make TF2 $3.99 or something very cheap. Free is ridiculous. Serious players would obviously still buy the game and the free-2-play issue would be greatly reduced if not eliminated if this was done. At least charge something, even if it's just a couple bucks. Then you can block them via their credit card number, Paypal account ID, etc. Hell, most of these cheap-bastard trolls would probably stop just because they're too cheap to spend a couple bucks, and blocking mommy's credit card would end their rein of terror. Merry Christmas all, Mike
_____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mart-Jan Reeuwijk Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:51 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report If thats TF2 and him using F2P accounts, consider using the F2P kick plugin. Another approach can be to give those female players "mini"admin rights, so they can ban someone for a short time. Had to deal with about the same kind of stuff, where 1 player made it bad by cajoling up the others, this lasted some time, and went out of hand. We banned the guy, but the rest kept at it. We decided to give her admin, and then she could ban any herself, which ended the situation fast, because then as soon as it happened, she banned them. _____ From: E. Olsen <[email protected]> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, 24 December 2011, 22:00 Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report I honestly think the major issue here is the fact that people seem to be able to make unlimited multiple accounts without any sort of oversight (either automated or manual). we have one particular nasty case of a player who loves to sexually harass female players, and is able to create a new account (with a dynamic IP address) and be back on our servers in under 4 minutes. To date, we've banned him over 20 times, but he simply creates another account and goes right back to harassing female players (along with the usual childish racist/homophobic stuff). I don;t know what the answer is, but there has to be some way to prevent the same people from opening so many accounts. Hell, I think that problem even caused the current contest/promotion to be gamed via the humble bundle & Steam keys, etc. I really don't see why any more than a couple of accounts per household are even necessary, but it would go a long way towards helping us keep our servers clean if Valve could start preventing these people from opening account after account. Hell....it's got to be messing with their internal stats as well - so many new accounts created by the same people has got to throw a wrench into their internal metrics. On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> wrote: Welcome to the world of unlimited free2play accounts and delayed banning. Gotta have full time admins these days. On Dec 24, 2011 2:20 PM, "Calvin Judy" <[email protected]> wrote: VAC bans are delayed, so they won't be instantly banned for cheating, they get flagged, and then banned like a week later so that if they used multiple cheats, they don't know which one got them banned. In itself, it's a defense against cheat development. ----- Original Message ----- From: Administrator <mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 1:31 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Cheat Engine & Report I totally agree with you. People are buying hacks and using them and vac is not able to ban them. At times it becomes so hard for admins to judge who is using hacks and who is not. Fair Play is missing :( On 12/24/2011 11:39 AM, Juliano wrote: VAC is banning people who use cheat engine? What happens when a complaint is made by the cheater profile page? (Report violation) All complaints are checked by staff of the valve? Many cheaters are appearing lately... Thanks. _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _____ _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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