It's worse than that. There's been a rise in cheats piggybacking onto 
GameOverylayUI.exe + it's dlls and hiding behind it. If you white list the 
Valve overlay support, you've just white listed the UI side of certain cheats. 
Still, the cheat may be caught when it tries to tap into game info. 
 

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From: [email protected] on behalf of dmex
Sent: Wed 1/11/2012 2:26 PM
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds] Overwolf + VAC



That one update from 2010 is still causing people including myself to be kicked 
by Punkbuster when the overlay is enabled, It's a stalemate between Valve and 
EvenBalance as to who's responsibility it is to solve it and has been ongoing.

 

There has been a rise in legitimate tools being detected as cheats by 
Punkbuster of late due to the same hook methods being used by cheat tools and 
I've referred three this week alone.

 

Just being courteous in letting the OP know there is that possibility when it 
comes to Punkbuster. 

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Calvin Judy
Sent: Thursday, 12 January 2012 3:13 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Overwolf + VAC

 

I don't have an issue playing COD4 with the steam overlay, I don't know about 
battlefield 2 because I don't have it, I have bc2, and that uses the same 
version of punkbuster as BF2 if i'm not mistaken. 

 

With the volume of players on steam using evenbalance's products in their 
games, I highly doubt it would still exist as an issue after 7 years. 

 

Reviewing threads on SPUF show that there was only one update in 2010 that 
caused this issue on BF2. 

        ----- Original Message ----- 

        From: Juan Acuña <mailto:[email protected]>  

        To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
<mailto:[email protected]>  

        Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 2:06 PM

        Subject: Re: [hlds] Overwolf + VAC

         

        Steam overlay result in a kick from the server in COD4 and Battlefield 
2 because of the punkbuster.
        
        
        El 12/01/2012 4:04, Calvin Judy escribió: 

        The overlay doesn't inject anything, and using an API has nothing to do 
with injection. It's called an overlay for a reason.

         

        And the punkbuster comment is not true, it's been tested on all games 
with no cheat detection results, you should check out teamspeaks website, 
they're only promoting it to millions of users. 

         

        It's fine, not being detected because it isn't injecting.

                ----- Original Message ----- 

                From: dmex <mailto:[email protected]>  

                To: 'Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list' 
<mailto:[email protected]>  

                Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 1:41 PM

                Subject: Re: [hlds] Overwolf + VAC

                 

                Your ignorant if you think Steam's overlay doesn't do 
injection, It also does API hooking ;)

                I would be careful about using it with Punkbuster enabled 
games, It if happens Overwolf uses the same technique as a cheat tool, 
Punkbuster will consider it a cheat tool and invoke a kick and/or ban.

                From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Calvin Judy
                Sent: Thursday, 12 January 2012 2:00 PM
                To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
                Subject: Re: [hlds] Overwolf + VAC

                You're ignorant if you think the only thing VAC checks for is 
changes in .dlls or .exes, however Overworlf doesn't inject, it's just an d3d 
overlay, like the steam in-game overlay.

                        ----- Original Message ----- 

                        From: Eduard Osman <mailto:[email protected]>  

                        To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
<mailto:[email protected]>  

                        Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:57 AM

                        Subject: Re: [hlds] Overwolf + VAC

                        Doea it modify any .dll or .exe files? If not, then it 
will not trigger it.

                        On Jan 11, 2012 4:52 PM, "Tuga aka mabaclu" 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                        Does using Overwolf in Counter-Strike 1.6 trigger a VAC 
ban? 
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