Hi John, I totally agree that the feature is useful, I use it often. What I totally disagree with is relying on the end user to set the value properly (on the server). The data is already available to the master of where the server is geographically located in relation to the client. The only thing I suggested was to deprecate the convar from servers and don't duplicate already available data. It would solve a lot of problems, and would stop cheaters from abusing this with bogus data (being listed in every region).
Thanks, Kyle. On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 12:27 PM, John <[email protected]>wrote: > Thanks for your previous extra work in troubleshooting this, Mike. I hope > that it is fixed soon. > > Kyle, specifying a region is still (at least theoretically) useful in > paring down the server list in the browser, allowing it to load to > completion faster. If it is an intentionally abandoned feature, the option > should be removed from the client. > > -John > > > On 12/5/2012 1:50 AM, BOOM! Gaming Support wrote: > >> John, I recently forwarded similar info to Eric Smith at Valve and hetold >> me >> he was forwarding the info to someone to resolve. Below is what I >> disocvered >> a while back about the sv_region setting and how it effects servers. I >> wanted to post it but was hoping Valve would send out something about it >> instead. Since that hasn't happened, I'll share my findings that were sent >> to Valve a couple weeks ago: >> >> "I have discovered some strange behavior with the sv_region setting on my >> TF2 servers that I felt you should know about immediately. I didn't want >> to >> post it on the email list until you reviewed it and was hoping you could >> release a message via the hlds list about it today. >> >> I have always used sv_region 255 for my US West Coast TF2 servers because >> I >> wanted them to appear in the default "<ALL>" list. A while ago I found >> using >> sv_region 1 caused the servers not to list in <ALL> list. My experience is >> that most people use the default unfiltered "<ALL>" servers setting so my >> servers showing being in that list was very important to me. I was told >> that >> this issue was apparently resolved at some point but I didn't change my >> servers back to 1 until this morning. >> >> What I discovered after resetting my servers to Region 1 and testing them >> in >> the server list was as follows. >> >> The first thing I found was that a bunch of servers from the west coast >> were >> showing up in the east coast filtered server list. After seeing this, I >> started playing with one of my Windows TF2 servers and found the >> following: >> >> When choosing sv_region 0 (US-East) - This Region simply doesn't work on >> my >> servers. If I enter 'sv_region 0' into the server console, the region will >> not change from what it was previously set to. Even more interesting is >> that >> if the server is booted with sv_region set to 0, the sv_region value is >> completely ignored and the server's region remains at the setting it was >> at >> prior to the restart. If I change the region from 0 to anything else after >> booting it with 0, the setting will change in about 10 seconds and the >> server will show the correct region in the Steam WEB API. >> >> Other things I discovered with regard to the region settings after some >> testing: >> >> When choosing sv_region 1 (US-West) My server appears in <ALL>, <US-WEST> >> and also <US-EAST> >> When choosing sv_region 2 (SOUTH AMERICA) My server appears in <ALL> and >> <US-EAST> but NOT South America where it should >> When choosing sv_region 255 (ALL) My server appears in <ALL>, <US-EAST> >> not >> US-WEST >> >> I found that the above issues are also occuring on an NFO Linux VPS server >> my friend owns as well, however the NFO folks are employing some sort of >> workaround for their servers because no matter what region the NFO client >> uses for US East Coast servers, the server only shows in the US East Coast >> list and the WEB API reports a "-1" region code. Example here: >> 70.42.74.155:27015 NFOservers.com >> >> Anyway, you get the idea. There's something wrong with the sv_region >> variable that needs a second look and I just wanted you to be aware. For >> now, I'm successfully using sv_region 1 for my west coast servers, but >> people on the east coast of the US using sv_region 0 are probably hosed >> and >> don't even know it." >> >> Regards, >> Mike Vail >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: >> hlds-bounces@list.**valvesoftware.com<[email protected]> >> [mailto:hlds-bounces@list.**valvesoftware.com<[email protected]>] >> On Behalf Of John >> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 1:34 AM >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> Subject: [hlds] sv_region ignored >> >> I noticed today that setting sv_region 0 doesn't work to change the output >> of the tool at >> http://api.steampowered.com/**ISteamApps/**GetServersAtAddress/v0001?** >> addr=x.x.x<http://api.steampowered.com/ISteamApps/GetServersAtAddress/v0001?addr=x.x.x> >> . >> x >> (it still shows a region value of whatever was previously specified, or >> -1). >> Using another number does change that value. I delved deeper and found >> that >> the location field in the Steam browser is also being ignored, as I see >> many >> region 3 servers (for instance) when I try to filter for "US - East". >> >> Is this intentional? >> >> -John >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds<https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds<https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >> > > > ______________________________**_________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.**com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/**hlds<https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds> >
_______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
