Please ignore: :D 

What I find funny in this case is you claim html
isn't coding, which is what you assume'd I used. I have written plenty
of stuff in PHP, which by all regards is coding. 

I can leave what ever
links in my signature that I like, it really isn't your concern, it is
there for information none the less. 

Last time I checked it took more
then 5 minutes to download TF2, install sourcemod, configure a fastdl
server, setup stats, install tf2 mods, test to see why the mod isn't
working correct, etc. However I am so glad you are a master and making
things appear instantly. 

In regards to it being freeware yes you are
right. However, Wordpress.com runs on open source software. So does
mumble.com. Many platforms are using free software, and people still
make profit off of it. So what is your gripe? (please note: I have never
once made a profit with my gaming network.) 

I only ask my patrons to
enjoy themselves as well, but I request them, if they so chose, to watch
a 30 second ad to help keep the servers up. It isn't like they can't do
what you already stated in a previous message. I even made a youtube
video showing my players how to turn it off if they so chose. 

I'm not
mad at all, I'm simply pointing out some fact that I have seen come to
reality. Last time I checked watching an ad wasn't scamming, I guess you
must be confusing that with websites that steal your steam info that
claim FREE GAMES. (no links will be provided, even if requested.) 

I
have noticed that you hate us, thus you throw your hate at us. GJ.


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/community please look at 1c
and it perfectly fits. :)


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/network 3b, 5. 

I don't
think I have ever said anything hateful to you, if so I apologize. As I
am simply showing you my point of view and where I come from. 

Happy
Easter, if you aren't religous, then have a great day. :) 

On
03/31/2013 10:05 AM, Crapware Wardon wrote: 

> Html is not "coding",
kid. WordPress is just for noobs that want to call them selves web
developers. You are merely a desktop publisher, not a developer. Your
dead link is just that a dead link, don't pretend it's an intentionally
turned off site and still leave the url in your signature.
> 
> As for
your so called "network", you're running a single platform free
server-ware created by someone else while attempting to portray yourself
as a technically able person deserving compensation for 5 minutes of
install time.
> 
> I have been running multiple game servers on all the
main platforms (win, lin/un-ix, os-x) using all the main game engines
(hl2, quake, unreal, cry); furthermore I have developed my own custom
admin mods as well as game content for all the game servers I provide,
for going on 2 decades now. Yes I provide these "services" to the
"community" free of charge and only ask my patrons to enjoy
themselves.
> 
> When you whine and complain about how deserving you are
for your stealing other peoples work, you not only offend the true
community contributors but also show those of us in the know what an
asshole you are (see, I do know who/what you are). 
> 
> Face it you are
just mad that someone is posting a view that is counter to your goal of
scamming players and deducting value from player time.
> 
> Pinion and
its supporters are a blight that I mean to see eradicated from the world
of internet gaming. Good luck with your "Network" and "Community" (I
suggest you look up the definitions of these words). 
> 
> You are quite
possibly the lowest form of human life, but for, the lowly belly
crawling lawyer. 
> 
> I will not be accepting any more of your
insulting hate mail so please enjoy your rage and keep it to yourself.

> 
> Have a nice day and go fuck yourself, you thief. 
> 
>
-------------------------
> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:32:18 -0700
>
From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
>
Subject: Re: lol
> 
> I actually hand coded the initial site when I
started the gaming network, from scratch. However, over time it became
evident that Wordpress was much more powerful and better for our needs.
The website with the bad cert is there because if you didn't realize no
one is using it. Long story short you have no idea who I am. You don't
know what I look like. You are just upset because you have to watch an
ad for 30 seconds. So here is my suggestion, don't play Team Fortress 2,
block my list of servers and move on, or just don't play on servers that
don't use pinion. However, if you really want to get around the problem,
then go build your own server and see what the problems are. I would
love to see you survive for more then a year. The fact is yes, I am the
sole operator of the network, but I still have a community that loves
and follows it. This community isn't charged anything, yet I still have
to pay extra out of my pocket for it to exist, am I complaining, "No."
If the players want to move on and find another gaming network, then
that is why I am not the sole operator of all the servers. Players can
make a choice as well, they just simply don't go to bad servers. Yet,
they still come to mine so I am doing something right, even if you like
it or not. 
> 
> I hope you have fun and enjoy what ever server you find
/ make, but please give me a break as I am tired of hearing your
personal attacks that have no context. I am tired of hearing you
complain. Get off your ass and mitigate the problem yourself, or shut
up.
> 
> Server List:
http://www.gaming-servers.net/tf2-servers-simple/
> 
> On 03/31/2013
03:00 AM, Crapware Wardon wrote:
> 
>> LOL @ you and your lame ass
wordpress sites kid. Learn a little before you talk shit kid. One of
your sites has a bad cert, you should learn how to do some stuff before
you advertise that you know something.
>> 
>> I'll be sure to pass on
how lame you are to all of your potential customers. We can call it free
advertisement, just like pinion. LMAO!!!!

On 03/31/2013 10:49 AM, Brian
Simon wrote: 

> Oh god my sides. Thank you for this thread Crapware
Warden. Your idiocy is quite hilarious 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at
1:20 PM, Dominik Friedrichs <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Anyone remember
the pizza troll? I think hes back :))
>> Anyway, I dont get how everyone
gets so upset about the stupid MOTD and some RUMORS...
>> And some guys
want to force display their MOTD because it contains 8000 characters of
important rules... give me a break, who would even read 5% of that?? 
>>

>> On 2013/03/31 13:57, Mart-Jan Reeuwijk wrote: 
>> 
>>> he did same
kind of crap message to me:
>>> 
>>> http://imgur.com/NzIvh9D [2]
>>>

>>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
*From:* Cameron Munroe <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* Mart-Jan
Reeuwijk <[email protected]>; Half-Life dedicated 
>>> 
>>> Win32
server mailing list <[email protected]> *Sent:* Sunday, 31
March 2013, 11:22
>>> *Subject:* Re: [hlds] Suggestion and query
regarding MOTD 
>>> 
>>> LOL quote from this guy. He can't defeat my
argument thus he uses
>>> personal attacks. Voteban request?
>>> Also to
answer your question, servers cost money as I have stated
>>> before.
They aren't free. Look it up.
>>> Hi Dumbass,
>>> 
>>> You should look
up the meaning of the word "community". I'm thinking
>>> it doesn't mean
was you think it means. You really think you deserve
>>> payment for
running a game server you get for free using an
>>> admin-mod that's
also for free in the context of a community. You
>>> must be pretty dumb
or at the very least very selfish.
>>> 
>>> Anyways you are encouraged
to go fuck yourself and also please stop
>>> spamming the message
thread. No-one really likes you and your
>>> community thinks your an
asshole.
>>> 
>>> Have fun fucking yourself douchebag.
>>> 
>>>
Love,
>>> The Crapware Wardon.
>>> 
>>> On 03/31/2013 01:48 AM, Mart-Jan
Reeuwijk wrote: 
>>> 
>>>> This is SERVER admin list, you come with crap
for the USERS which
>>>> shouldn't be here... its a DIFFERENT
viewpoint.
>>>> 
>>>> Server Owners want:
>>>> - being able to show the
MOTD for various plugins and MODs and/or
>>>> their community rules,
McKay made a nice list of things that would
>>>> get broken if it went
down the drain.
>>>> 
>>>> Clients want:
>>>> - no pinion / unsolicited
traffic not related to their game.
>>>> 
>>>> The mailing list is for
Server Owners, and ofcourse, SPUF is for
>>>> the Clients.
>>>> 
>>>>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
*From:* Crapware Wardon <[email protected]>
>>>> *To:*
"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:*
Sunday, 31 March 2013, 4:49
>>>> *Subject:* [hlds] Suggestion and query
regarding MOTD 
>>>> 
>>>> This is to address the responses from the
following badmins...
>>>> 
>>>> Asher Baker ([email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>)
>>>> Doctor McKay
([email protected]
>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>)
>>>> Russell
Smith ([email protected]
>>>>
<mailto:[email protected]>)
>>>> 1nsane ([email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>) 
>>>> 
>>>> Providing links from public
forums is not the same as
>>>> providing links from corporate press
release web sites. I can
>>>> understand how the simple minded might
fall for you
>>>> shenanigans but Valve simply does not represent itself
as
>>>> doing business with Pinion. IMHO they would be foolish to do
so.
>>>> 
>>>> I have been following this mailing list for some time now
and
>>>> have yet to see any of the above individuals offer anything
of
>>>> value or help to anyone other than themselves or their self
>>>>
serving opinions. It would be a great service to the community
>>>> if
they would remove themselves from this list.
>>>> 
>>>> Pinion does
nothing to support Valve games and as a matter of
>>>> fact they detract
from the entertainment value people strive
>>>> for when they purchase a
game. They are capitalizing and
>>>> promoted pollution to the gaming
community. If no one can post
>>>> a better solution to this issue, I
would then welcome the motd
>>>> removal altogether.
>>>> 
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