While I agree that a mailing list isn't the best system for discussion about servers, it at least has a slightly higher barrier to entry than the Steam forums/discussions. If the forums were the only place for server admins to discuss, then a lot more regular users (non-admins) would end up posting, cluttering the actual discussions.
There are good third-party sites for server discussion though. AlliedModders (https://forums.alliedmods.net) has a well-moderated SRCDS/HLDS section. Dr. McKay On Monday, April 1, 2013, Derek Howard wrote: > He's literally just listing every single person he's seen send a message > on this mailing list. My only other post on this mailing list since I > joined was to mention the fact that Javascript and Java are not the same > thing. How is that misinformation? I will admit that another user beat me > to the punch, making my message redundant, but that's hardly reason to add > me to some sort of "hurr durr thes r badmins" list. > > This user's sole purpose here is to spam, piss people off, and > psuedo-anonymously launch personal attacks. That is his only goal, no > exaggeration. To those at Valve who are reading this: Please. You guys are > running this thing, so it's your job to keep it clean. I don't even run any > servers. I just like to have a heads-up to any incoming updates, or the > occasional major change that I need to let my buddies know about. I didn't > sign up for *this* crap. > > In my opinion, this thing shouldn't even allow the public to post; it > should *only* be official messages and notifications from Valve > employees. If Valve means to facilitate discussion, then they should > perhaps create a forum (oh > wait<http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=509> > oh wait <http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/#tools>), encourage use > of said forum, actively engage users in official capacity on said forum, > and maintain the forum. This is much more desirable than continuing to use > this archaic medium. (Also, please don't stoop to his level by spoofing his > address. The fact that this is even possible only supports my argument that > these discussions need to be moved elsewhere. That and the whole "passwords > are stored and sent in cleartext" issue.) > > In any case, I've just added a personal filter that automatically dumps > any email containing both the strings "crapware" and "valve" directly into > my trash, marked as read. I am giving serious thought to expanding this > filter to include all messages that are from this list, but not from Valve > employees. I politely suggest that you all also consider setting up some > kind of filter, as well as immediately ceasing any and all responses > to/mentions of this user. Please, pretend he does not exist. > > I sincerely hope that this is the last message any of us see regarding > this issue, but I know it won't be for most of you. > > Thank you, > Derek D. Howard > -- Sent from Gmail Mobile
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