Yes, my plan is to maintain network compatibility between beta and non-beta users. When this isn't possible (and it has been to date, so I would be surprised) I will add that warning. This compatibility for beta is ONLY for the HL1 engine era games (CS 1.6, CZ, DoD, DMC, Ricochet, OpFor, TFC), for Source games it is typically not true.
- Alfred From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Valentin G. Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 2:01 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_announce] Counter-Strike, Counter-Strike: Condition Zero and Half-Life beta server update Alfred just to clarify, cstrike beta clients/server will remain compatible with non beta in any combination? On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Crazed Gunman <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yeah, my personal biggest gripe with SteamCMD is that its switches and options are about as intuitive as tar is, which is about the "not at all" mark. Granted you script it once and done; and that's fine because that's exactly my process, but with hldsupdatetool if you figured well if its "-command install" to install then "-command update" would be the logical step in the right direction. I appreciate its power but it really just is not as easy as I think it could be. Just my two cents on the matter. - via carrier pigeon On Apr 2, 2013, at 10:36 PM, Ryan Stecker <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I believe it was mentioned elsewhere on this list that SteamCMD is used for more than just updating server installations, hence the complexity. That being said, it isn't like you need to memorize the arguments every time you use it. As Alfred mentioned, you simply need to place your update commands in a script once and then you'd be set for the foreseeable future. On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:28 PM, IBIS Customer Service <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Basically the new system no longer follows K.I.S.S. and that is the problem people have. On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Rick Payton <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I think the point, Alfred, was that on the "old" system the command line stuff was simple and to the point - you want to INSTALL this GAME to this DIRECTORY. We all know the new system is better, and I'm sure everyone appreciates it as well. It's just the arguments to get the content got more complicated, when they don't (seem to) need to be. At least, that's what *I* took from his mail. --mauirixxx -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 2:24 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_announce] Counter-Strike, Counter-Strike: Condition Zero and Half-Life beta server update Nope, you will want the "90 -beta beta" bit usually, to get the beta goodness. Jesse should read https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/SteamCMD so he can find out about the scripting options we support. - Alfred -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Ross Bemrose Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2013 5:22 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds] [hlds_announce] Counter-Strike, Counter-Strike: Condition Zero and Half-Life beta server update It's not +app_update "90 -beta beta" any more, it's just +app_update 90 On 4/2/2013 8:20 PM, Jesse Molina wrote: > > Dear Valve > > To start off, I don't want to be a huge jerk here and think I'm just > griefing you Valve guys. There is plenty of nonconstructive criticism > on this mailing lists already, and that's not the kind of community > contribution I want to be involved in. > > I have no question people are doing their best, and I understand what > it's like when someone comes out and tells your "Your work is crap." > > However, I want to demonstrate the monster you've created, > intentionally or not. > > With the old HLDSUpdateTool, this is, apparently, what you did to > install/update czero: > > ./steam -command update -game czero -dir /mydir/mygame > > > > With the new SteamCMD, this is what you, apparently, have to do to get > similar behavior: > > ./steamcmd.sh +@ShutdownOnFailedCommand 1 +login "anonymous" > +force_install_dir /mydir/mygame +app_set_config 90 mod czero > +app_update "90 -beta beta" +exit > > > > > > Alfred Reynolds wrote: >> You can get a dedicated install for it by using the following command >> line: >> steamcmd +logon anonymous +force_install_dir ..\hlds +app_update "90 >> -beta beta" +quit >> >> Note you will need to use "+app_set_config 90 mod czero" before the >> +app_update command if you want to update condition zero. > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds
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