Ugh... Valve's business is earning money from the work of others (Steam
publishing games).

Also TF2 is a free to play game that requires a big number of servers to
keep the game easily accessible for everyone all over the world.
There's practically no reason to host MvM servers because you can't exactly
build a community around that mode if you run it stock.
It's all just random players sent by matchmaking yet the resource usage can
be equal to a server full of real people.

If the Steam forums are to be believed then there's no ad-free servers in
Australia.
Not everyone is willing to do charity work for random people on the
internet so they don't have to wait hours in the matchmaking line.


On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 4:05 AM, Andre Müller <[email protected]> wrote:

> I hate advertising in games. If I'm hosting my own servers, I will pay for
> it. If I do not have the money, I can't rent dedicated servers. Easy thing.
> To make money with the work from others (plugindevelopers/valve) is the
> wrong way. Programm your own shit server and then you are able to earn
> money. Big communitys has much members, which are able to pay together.
> This point doesn't count, that big communnitys dies, when they aren't able
> to advertising.
> Am 08.04.2013 02:29 schrieb "Charlie" <[email protected]>:
>
> Also, no advertising agency I know of comes close to $10CPM ads, unless
>> they have a 0% fillrate.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Gavin Langdon <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Certainly, which I think is the main reason AlliedModders put that in
>>> there. I just wanted to inform Harsh that it's actually legally iffy for
>>> this person to do what they're doing.
>>>
>>> sent from mobile
>>> On Apr 7, 2013 5:19 PM, "Cc2iscooL" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My apologies, my reading comprehension was not working. Please ignore
>>>> my previous message.
>>>>
>>>> I would be leery of anyone sending out a sourcemod plugin without
>>>> giving the source code out, just because of what it can do.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Cc2iscooL <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think they're likely more worried about a malicious plugin than a
>>>>> license.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Gavin Langdon <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's actually against the license to distribute smx files without
>>>>>> also distributing source code.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> sent from mobile
>>>>>> On Apr 7, 2013 4:21 PM, "Harsh Baid" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Just finished talking with him. Apparently he privately contacts
>>>>>>> communities and doesn't want to become another "pinion" according to 
>>>>>>> him.
>>>>>>> Also he won't let anyone see the source code to his .smx plugin and with
>>>>>>> that i flat out denied and said no, i don't want to participate.
>>>>>>>
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