I don't think your servers will be delisted for having real players sitting
in spec.

On 22 May 2013 03:51, Chad Cummings <[email protected]> wrote:

> It was brought to my attention by one of our community members the
> following post from back in March:
>
> "SkepticalGaming has been using idles to gain quickplay score and
> thus...players. Not just any idles. Idles using idle scripts. We have seen
> the players who joined the server at the same time and we have a full list
> of IP and Steam ID. All the "players" that were used to pouplate only had
> one game and were not premium accounts. We also have many screen shots of
> such fake clients."
>
> First I will say that I am not affiliated with or associated with
> Skeptical Gaming in any way. But this does concern me, because our
> community does something similar and I do not want us targeted for similar
> behavior. During the day we have some of our what we call "seeders" hop on
> our servers and idle in spectator for the day, since they're off to work or
> school, this helps give us a boost in the QP pool when our other community
> members who can actively play join the server.
>
> First I'll clarify that:
>
> We are not modifying any data streams.
> These are normal TF2 accounts of community members.
> We're not using some fake clients that pose as bots.
> We play on the servers as well, we don't just sit idle specs on them all
> day and hope that they fill up.
>
> As far as I've read, as long as we're not modifying the data streams or
> tricking the steam servers, we're in the clear, but this post above still
> concerns me. Can and will Valve seriously punish a server for having
> spectators? A lot of communities have what they refer to as their
> population teams or seeder groups who aim to help get their servers full. I
> am wanting some clarifications here. I do not want to wake up and find our
> servers delisted.
>
> TLDR: Can your servers be delisted for having several spectators sit to
> help with seeding.
>
> Thanks for your time,
> Chad
>
>
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