Truly, if you're not getting donations you are in denial of the fact that the 
community thinks your server sucks. Try changing things to the requests of the 
community and not dictate the same things that have created the lack of 
interest in donations.

 
From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 09:55:58 +0100
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 MOTD and Quickplay

Then again a good number of players don't even support the best communities out 
there by donating, most players these days are under the impression that 
running a server has no price tags attached. It's a case of either the 
community's owner footing the cost, or closing their own community's servers. 
The latter of course generally ends up with less servers than there are today. 
Less servers eventually means little to no game. Why else haven't more official 
servers been opened up? Because it's not cheap (or free) and is most likely 
going to cause Valve to be running at a loss in order to do so. So that leaves 
the final option, Pinion and the like, an alternative solution to those who 
don't donate to a good community in order to keep it alive for all to 
participate on.


Hate Pinion and the like? Disable HTML MOTD's in your settings in-game and 
leave and blacklist servers which use it. Finally look for and go on official 
Valve servers. SPUF is generally a better place to have this sort of discussion 
on really, imo.



On 17 June 2013 10:05, Saint K. <[email protected]> wrote:


A good community and it's servers are supported by it's donors, not by highly 
intrusive advertisements.



Saint K.

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From: [email protected] [[email protected]] 
on behalf of Supreet Sahni [[email protected]]



Sent: 17 June 2013 01:13

To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 MOTD and Quickplay



Doctor, why don't you pay the $300-400 dedicated server bills and other 
expenses that server owners have to pay to keep their community running.



It's as simple as this, a server forces you to see ads, leave it and don't come 
back. Why are you trying to be a Nazi government trying to control what server 
owners want to do.



Look Valve, we pay for these servers okay. Dedicated servers aren't cheap, we 
need to make money to recovery costs. What you are basically doing is stunting 
one community's growth.



If you continue to create features that will just add more and more 
restrictions for server owners, why don't you just become like one of the game 
publishers that don't even let users host dedicated servers.



Just take away our server powers and how about this Valve? Why don't you just 
host all the servers for us and leave us the headache? How much extra server 
dollars will that cost you Valve, and also how much manpower will you need to 
maintain those 1000s of servers running plugins that people LOVE!





It's easy for you to just toss up Vanilla servers in there with no 
configurations and setups but do realize the amount of hours and hardwork 
server owners put in their community. We build it from ground up. How would you 
like it Valve is "Example Gaming Regulation" told you, you can't push certain 
updates and release a set group of weapons and items.





The point is this - we pay full cost for our communities, so let us do THINGS 
to cover for the cost. Otherwise, make srcds use less RAM and CPU so we don't 
have to buy expensive servers.



I speak on behalf of many community owners who are irritated by people stirring 
up something every few weeks for no reason. Yeah I'm talking about you Doctor.



Your TF2 would be NOTHING if it wasn't for us hard working community owners who 
provide great servers for your playerbase to play at.





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