Donations are pretty much a thing of the past for the majority of communities, unless you happen to run some premium (practically cheating) in-game benefits model. The donation model was more than feasable back when the game wasn't free to play and didn't have an in-game store to buy virtual items with real money. These days it's not anywhere near as easy to do, more so if most of your players are coming from Quickplay.
Reality does unfortunately appear to be this: - Valve doesn't care as long as their actions don't result in a considerable drop in the popularity of the game which they modified - Officials won't reply to topics such as this, mainly as they aren't accountable to any of us and I expect they don't really care much of our views anyway - Valve will very likely ignore or will not co-operate with Pinion (or any other related service) in changing how the recent MOTD changes were implemented Reality sucks I know, but I'm pretty sure those three points are valid. We could continue protesting or debating, I for one would like HTML MOTD's in a limited form (e.g. to disable Flash and HTML5 audio/video for Quickplay clients) to be the thing for Quickplay clients, but I doubt they'll change their stance on this :x. On 9 November 2013 18:01, Andre Müller <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm more on valves side. The html-motd is confusing the quickjoin players. > I'm not interested in big communities who get money with their motd > (adverts, clicks). It's not my problem how they do pay their servers. I had > long time a clan, which was paying itself the servers and without adverts > and other annoying stuff. So, if a community can't deal with it, shut it > down. There will come 10 new communities. Always the same shit, crying > communities without money. Learn to collect money from your members to pay > your infrastructure. > > > 2013/11/9 Alteran Ancient <[email protected]> > >> This argument is fruitless... really. In more ways than one. >> >> After watching this go on for a day or two, I've come to a conclusion. >> People that join the old-fashioned way, are joining these servers by choice >> and therefore the server operators are more than entitled to show them >> whatever they want on the MOTD. I am starting to agree with the principle >> that those who enter through quick-join shouldn't be slurped-up by >> overnight server behemoths for the purpose of gaining Ad impressions. Cut >> out that means as a way to roll in the dosh and let players support their >> servers through choice, not chance, and the groups abusing this system to >> get cheap impressions on their MOTD are going to have less of an incentive >> to do so. >> >> Petitions are normally pointless. Most people don't bother with them, and >> most companies don't even listen to them, because they're not legally >> obligated to do anything about them. I'll tell you what's even more >> pointless, though. Bickering. Friendly and *constructive* debates are >> helpful and get more done than petty arguing and trolling. Guys such as >> ElitePowered and Dr. McKay have the right mindset in that arguing and >> fighting on a *mailing list* is pointless. Please, if you've got >> personal quarrels, take them outside. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >
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