Let's face it, the way VAC currently works, there's no effective way of
dealing with cheaters in a F2P game like TF2, stock servers or not.


On 12 July 2014 19:40, ics <[email protected]> wrote:

> Majority of the players seem to be doing there just fine, as we have the
> more empty servers. So i guess we are deprecated.
>
> -ics
>
> Mike Vail kirjoitti:
>
>  Yet another reason why I will NEVER play on Valve's unprotected stock
>> servers. Thousands of cheaters exploit them and it only takes one to ruin
>> the entire game for everyone on the server. The irony of this is Valve
>> wants new players to have a vanilla experience by directing them to their
>> servers first. I guess that includes experiencing the havok cheaters create
>> on their servers because they've done very little to prevent it. I
>> absolutely love Valve's games, but the cheating is just out of control.
>> Thank God for people like Kigen who did something to deal with these people.
>>
>>
>> Dominik Friedrichs <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Apparently it is still/again possible to circumvent the TF2 built in
>> kick vote on the Valve servers (which should ban people AFAIK).
>>
>> Just seen on:
>> Valve Attack / Defense Server (srcds147 #17)
>> 185.25.181.230:27031
>>
>> Player
>> #   3317 "let the conga take over" STEAM_0:1:91325986 52:07 416    0
>>
>> kept getting vote-kicked for heavy cheating but just went into spectator
>> for a brief period each time and as you can see from the status-excerpt
>> above he didnt really disconnect, even through multiple vote-kicks,
>> otherwise the time connected could hardly have reached 52 mins.
>>
>>
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