You’re right in one respect: This change won’t be reverted, that much is
almost as certain as death and taxes. However, on a point of ethics, I feel
the need to point out that running a text-client with the intended purpose
of deceiving players into believing that there is an active population on a
server is a violation of Valve’s Policy of Truth. The fact is, you are
deliberately misleading players into believing that your server is or is
likely to be more populated than what it actually is. The apparatus in
which that deception occurs is irrelevant - rather, it is the intent that
counts. It could be a text client, a fake client or hell, in my opinion
even a real client whose sole purpose is to be AFK on a server indefinitely
– And it would still be a violation of the apparent essence of the Policy
of Truth.


Why? Because the primary reason you’re doing it is, again, to make
ordinary, reasonable players believe that there is a player active on your
server when there is not. A real client it may be…but a real player,* it is
not*. That you would attempt to equivocate the two as if they were one and
the same is a true example of the types of behaviour that Valve has come to
expect from unscrupulous server operators. If you want to seed your server
and grow your community, get a bunch of friends together and start playing
- that's how good communities grew.


Having said that, I'd like to thank Valve for this change as I can see the
intended good behind it for players and (decent) server operators alike.


PS: Obsessing about the conversations of players to the point that you
listen into their conversations 24/7 is behaviour chillingly similar to
that of a stalker or voyeur...and almost certainly unhealthy.


On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 5:14 AM, HD <[email protected]> wrote:

> I run many servers, I refer to one cause well I’m only logging my client
> into one not all of them. I do go into my server(S) with one of my clients
> just to play also but sometimes I’d just rather use Computer A vs Computer
> B to log another client in –textmode (which again doesn’t or hasn’t never
> hurt anything) just to listen to the sounds and mic usage while looking at
> the console commands vs remote desktop into the server to view it. Plus as
> I said it adds a client/player into the count which helps seed…. One is a
> start much better than an empty server to start with.
>
> I’m not loading up a bunch of “Seeders” they are not fake they are REAL
> CLIENTS – I own the client – I’ve purchased many things with it – it is
> legit. This has nothing to do with fake clients.
>
> Thing is there are no negatives to this nothing viable that I can find
> anyway nothing that I’ve ever used them more. I may be a lone one on this
> list that objects to it but hey its something I enjoyed using which was
> perfectly legit. I do spend a ton of time on my servers – so don’t sit
> there and lecture me on what you don’t know or have any idea of.
>
>
>
> I don’t even know why I’m replying lol it’s pointless as I said not even
> Valve is replying to a reason for this change.
>
> Consider this my last reply on the issue since its clear it won’t be
> changed back.
>
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