Thanks Alfred,
I must say, this I think is what has been needed for some time... nice one! Well done and thanks! It'd be good to have something similar, a point of reference, for the rcon queries and master server queries. Just a suggestion =]
Dave
----- Original Message ----- From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: RE: [hlds_apps] Server query protocol
We have just published a document describing the Source server query protocol located at: http://www.valve-erc.com/srcsdk/Code/Networking/serverqueries.html
This page contains information on the challenge changes and documents a few extra fields in the A2S_INFO packet.
In a WEEK or two we will be turning off non-challenged query responses (an email will be sent to this list when that happens).
- Alfred
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 5:26 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds_apps] Server query protocol
This change has just been release (restart Steam to apply it). Note that you will need to set "sv_enableoldqueries 0" to enable the new challenge system.
- Alfred
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:46 AM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds_apps] Server query protocol
This change will be released tomorrow (so you can begin testing your tool updates).
The A2S_INFO query has been altered from the description below. Rather than challenge response for each server ( making querying large numbers of servers much slower) the query will simply have a string appended to it ("Source Engine Query"). So to get server info you would send: 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF 'T' "Source Engine Query" '\0'
- Alfred
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfred Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:48 PM To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds_apps] Server query protocol
We will be releasing an update later this week or early next week with an updated query protocol. To enable this change to be deployed quickly we will be minimising the changes this time around.
I will be writing a more detailed document describing the various valid Source server queries as a part of the SDK documentation, but in the mean time here is a brief description of the changes that will be made.
A challenge value will now required for all query responses (A2S_INFO, A2S_PLAYER, A2S_RULES) except for A2S_PING. The challenge value is a 4 byte value. You can either explicitly request a challenge value via a new query A2S_SERVERQUERY_GETCHALLENGE (ascii "W") or implicitly get a challenge value by sending a dummy challenge value of "-1" (0xFFFFFFFF) to any query (that requires a challenge). The response to A2S_SERVERQUERY_GETCHALLENGE (and an implicit challenge) will be S2C_CHALLENGE (ascii 'A' ) followed by a 4 byte value that is the challenge value. The challenge value should be appended to the end of the existing query request packets.
Queries that use strings to specify the query type (i.e. 0xFFFFFFFF"players") will NO LONGER be supported. You MUST update to the new A2S_* style queries. The byte values for each request type is: #define A2S_INFO 'T' // server info request - this must match the Goldsrc engine #define A2S_PLAYER 'U' // request player list #define A2S_RULES 'V' // request rules list from server #define A2S_SERVERQUERY_GETCHALLENGE 'W' // Request challenge # from another machine
These values are supported by the currently shipped Source engine if you want to start on your changes now.
A challenge value is valid for 60 minutes or until the server flushes your challenge from its LRU cache (which can handle 16K elements), so you should attempt to cache a challenge value rather than continually requesting it.
A challenge value is not required when querying servers within the same B class address range as the server (i.e LAN style requests), you should specify a challenge value of "-1" (0xFFFFFFFF) in these cases. Note that you can still use a valid challenge value in these cases, its value will be ignored however.
The initial rollout will support both old and new style queries (i.e with and without challenges). We expect to disable the old protocol within a couple WEEKS of the initial rollout. The cvar "sv_enableoldqueries" will control the servers ability to answer old style requests (when it is set to "1" it will reply to old style queries).
To aid in development and testing you can disable ignoring challenges from local B class clients by setting the cvar sv_allowlocalquery to 0 (i.e if sv_allowlocalquery is "0" then any query will follow the rules set by the "sv_enableoldqueries" cvar).
This change will also be applied to HL1 based game servers once the Source rollout is complete.
- Alfred
On Mon, 21 Feb 2005, Alfred Reynolds wrote:
the old protocol.We will be revising the Source server query format in the near future to remove some architectural problems with it. All the existing queries apart from PING will be altered by this change (i.e will require your tools to be updated). There will be a period where both systems coincide but we want to be aggressive in removing support forThis change may be ported to the HL1 engine also.
We have been assessing various protocols (both from other vendors and from the public), this is your chance to request features or suggest other standards to consider. The current plan is to make the minimal set of changes to remove the problems we found (making it easier for tools to update) but as we are breaking the protocol we are open to larger changes.
You can make feature requests or suggestions to this list (hlds_apps) or to me directly.
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