The wiki was updated and it confirmed what Burton said, but now the
changes have been reverted. Hopefully they realised how bad it would
be if the mail list was closed for no reason. Still no comment on that
on the list though, so maybe they just shut it down quietly later. No
communication seems to be the trend after all.

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Tony Paloma <drunkenf...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On the other mailing lists, Burton said he updated the steam support
> knowledge base article:
> https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9427-OPFH-2819
>
> Though I don't see any updates. It could be phony after all.
>
> This is what he posted in HLDS:
> -----
> Unfortunately, outlook doesn't handle email threads as well as gmail does.
>
> I have updated our Support FAQ with this information:
> https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9427-OPFH-2819
>
> -Burton Johnsey
> bur...@valvesoftware.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hlds_apps-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_apps-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Paul Kirby
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 3:29 PM
> To: 'Half-Life dedicated server applications mailing list'
> Subject: Re: [hlds_apps] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists
>
> Do we know this as valid source of information?
>
> I could be wrong but all the people that I have spoken to in the past that
> are were from Valve have all had valve email addresses (e.g.
> b...@valvesoftware.com).
>
> Can anyone point me to a forum post which has been posted by a Valve
> employee to validate this?
>
> I also hope that they don't shutdown the mailing list, because this to me is
> the easiest for me to get the information, also like Andrew said this is the
> best way to get valve staffs attention when reporting bugs etc.
>
> Also what happens if we find a very bad exploit and the forums are down what
> happens?
> At least with the mailing list if the server is down it just bounces and
> tries again a little while later.
>
> Thanks
> Paul Kirby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hlds_apps-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_apps-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Collins
> Sent: 09 February 2009 22:31
> To: Half-Life dedicated server applications mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_apps] Important notice regarding the HLDS mailing lists
>
> I really see this as a bad decision.
>
> I can understand with general technical support requests, but this
> mailing list in particular seems to be the best way to grab the
> attention of those at Valve who have a clue, Alfred et. al. or other
> experienced and knowledgeable minds within the community. While not used
> often, when it is, it's always been worthwhile raising issues here.
>
> I feel this resource will be lost, especially after the sterling
> response received when the Gldsrc protocol was broken, which included no
> one offering insight except some lowly Steam underling offering to blame
> everyone else for using the wrong protocol.
>
> Please Valve, Save our HLDS_APPS! :)
>
> Burton Johnsey wrote:
>> We will be shutting down the HLDS mailing lists on Friday, February 20th.
>>
>> After February 20th, all server discussions should take place in one of
> the
>> forums listed below.
>>
>> Windows server discussion should be conducted here:
>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=44 (Source)
>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=16 (Gldsrc)
>>
>> Linux server discussion should be conducted here:
>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=45 (Source)
>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=19 (Gldsrc)
>>
>> If you have not already done so, please register a forum
>> account<http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/register.php>
>> .
>>
>> NOTE: The mailing list archives will still be available for viewing.
>>
>> -BurtonJ
>> Valve Software
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>>
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