See thats the thing that they cover. If you were banned for no good reason
you can appeal through the website or an email address. It would need to be
part of the MOTD or sent to the users screen with a kicked by console
message so that the user knew. That way they could apeal and say they
weren't cheating, explain themselves and go from there. By having the server
who banned the person you can talk to the person who banned them and find
out what happened. The user would be unbanned with sufficient reason, but
with a remark that if they screwed around again to be re-banned. Yeah, one
bad admin could screw it up, but if you got alot of complaints from users
about getting banned for now reason on one guys server, you would know that
he was abusing the system. Nothing will ever be perfect, but this is probly
as good as it gets.

If you have a better suggestion I would like to hear it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Buddha-Pest [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 3:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Punkbuster is dead?



this system is something that works in theory but is open to incredible
abuse.  the  bottom line is, how do you categorically KNOW that someone is
cheating?  sure, wallhackers who shoot through walls are easy to spot.  but
what about wallhackers that just use the information to be more aware?  and
all it takes is one bad admin and someone might get banned from every server
without cause.

the only way something like this would work is if all the admins were in a
trusted domain.  i wouldn't want to join this network knowing some of the
peeps on this list, for example...

there's a small number of admins i really trust and those are the ones i'd
like to share my bans with.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mirco Bauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Punkbuster is dead?


>
> yeah
> I did a project like that 1 year ago already.
> its called HLACS
> Half-Life AntiCheat System
> it works by itself... Admins enter bans and all servers are getting after
> the 15 min the new version
> I made a lil linux script and a Win32 client :)
> but its at the moment down... btw it has already many bans...
>
> Mirco Bauer
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Gurney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:13 PM
> Subject: Re: Punkbuster is dead?
>
>
> >
> > Yep, this is the sort of thing I was thinking of.. It would be trivial
to
> > output from a php file in the format of the banned.cfg file, and then
all
> > you'd need to do would be to set up a cron job that does:
> >
> > wget http://whaterver/banned.php > banned.txt
> >
> > every 10 minutes or so..
> >
> > I really think this is the only way to go. Imagine if *every* server did
> > this? Would people risk cheating if they knew it meant they'd get banned
> > >from every server out there? This also lessens the load on individual
> admins
> > to police their servers. If hundreds of people are out there submitting
> ids
> > of cheaters, you distribute the load much better.
> >
> > For this to work though, it would need to be very very widespread. Would
> be
> > nice if Valve could include a readme about it in the server archives on
> the
> > next release if we can get something set up?
> >
> >
> >
> > > http://guest:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ban/
> > > Simon garner posted this a while ago. Maybe with his guidance/help we
> > could
> > > get something like this going in the states and other countries. It
uses
> > > mysql and php.
> >
> >
>
>


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