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-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eric (Deacon) Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2002 8:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] New Security Modules > So it would seem the wanted options are; > 1. non secure > 2. secure with > a. option to kick only, no ban > b. option to kick and ban, with > 1. option to report to global > 2. option to use global list. How about: c. option to wipe ass for me 1. wipe with circular motion 2. wipe in forward to back motion 3. wipe in back to forward motion 4. use quilted 1-ply 5. use quilted 2-ply 6. use unquilted 1-ply 7. use unquilted 2-ply 8. use the obviously uncompleted critical thinking homework assignments from high school 9. use Maureen Dowd's column from the NY Times (recommended) 0. turn off the ass-wiping feature and go commando Heh, seriously...this is just insane. I love options and have often lobbied passionately for there to be option as to how this or that functions. However, this is just crazy. I'd rather have functional software than even further delays due to some sniveling admin. In Tweak-esque voices at a feverish pitch, people manage to get out a sentence during the lull between fits of spazzing out: "Well if VAC really worked then they couldn't play anyway since they'd be kicked!" That isn't the point. That's merely an added benefit, extra assurance of a mostly cheat-free gaming experience. The POINT is that if they ARE repeat cheaters, they can NOT continue to use their copy of the game on secure servers even if they don't currently have the cheats actively running. Technically, Valve is being very lenient in that they should not even be allowed *that* privilege, according to the EULA they had to agree to before using the software. The point is that a universal ban list will act first as a deterrent against cheaters-to-be even thinking twice about playing with this particular fire. And if that deterrent fails, it acts as a punishment for breaking the EULA. When they break the EULA, they forfeit their opportunity to use the software. Best case scenario: people decide that constantly buying new copies of HL isn't worth whatever juvenile thrill they may get. Worst case scenario: they break their EULA, forfeit any rights to the use of the software--and possibly continue to fun Valve's efforts by buying additional product. Please, this has to be one of the dumbest spamfests I've seen in a long time. Good-natured suggestions and thoughtful discussions on the issue(s) at hand are welcome. Dogmatic, unthinking arguments augmented by fevered, spittle-infused flames are not welcome. If you can't be insightful or intelligent about it, then please keep your crap off the list. Thanks. -- Eric (the Deacon remix) _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
