> > With all the other concerns that have arisen?
>
> Concerns are great, and the intelligent discussion thereof is welcome.
> The concern I have currently is that instead, we have name-calling,
> derisive comments, dogmatic arguments, etc.
>

Normally By you.

Since signing onto this list there have been far move insults made by
you than any other person.

> > I want cheat protection, but not at the expence of others.
>
> I'm sincerely interested to hear your proposal of a system that's 100%
> hack proof with a 0% chance of false positives that works 100%
> effectively.  Life is a series of compromises.  The maturing of the VAC
> and the advent of a centrally controlled permanent banishment for repeat
> offenders is purely a response to the cries of admins and users the
> world over.  You don't have to participate.  Instead you can tend to the
> "expence" of cheaters by running an insecure server.
>

There will never be 1.

But the fact remains a central list will not stop cheats. It will only
stop those who get caught. It will also stop a few other innocents who
get caught up in valve bugs.

This is why I want the option to use VAC, but not use the banlist.

What is wrong with that option?

I would rather let a few cheaters past, and let my admins ban them than
ban a few innocents.

> Valve is run by thinking individuals.  If there is ever a major problem
> with the VAC or central banlist, don't you think they might react
> appropriately?  Personally, I say a central banlist is a terrible idea.
> Instead, mark their CD-Key as invalid, blocking any chance of WON Auth,
> so that they cannot connect to any internet servers.  You repeatedly
> break the EULA, you don't get to run the software as long as Valve can
> help it.  More power to them.
>
> And by the way, if you're not new to these lists, you'll know that
> referring to me as a "Valve ass kisser" is ludicrous.
>

Oh, yeah, I was replying to your post right? the comment was directed at
you?

Wanna borrow that clue stick again?

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>
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