on the contrary, I would imagine they label any release as beta if it is released seperately between major releases, which, amazingly, wait for it, makes sense. I have been using the latest beta servers since they were released, and have not had a single issue. There IS a difference between beta, and UNstable
I dont understand the attitudes over meaningless, petty stuff on this list. Valve is getting the job done, and doing everything within reason to take care of issues as they come up. It is not like they can pull everything out of their hats on the drop of a dime. this, unfortunately is the way it is. I dont see any reason to get so worked up over this crap. It only raises your bloodpressure a couple notches, and in the end is meaningless. lets get a grip guys. for example, the vegas issue with people dissapearing in certain places due to map flaws. As someone who knows what they are talking about, this is NOT something that valve can likely fix at the drop of the hat. More likely, it is something that would be needed to be fixed within the map itself. If so, then a fix would only be able to be distributed with a new release, and that if its easily fixable, which, going on my experience with bsp flaws, probably isnt. Therefor, it probably isn't worth it for valve to put a lot of effort into possibly reworking a lot of a map that is hardly even played relatively speaking. And hey, I enjoy vegas, but still, its not worth getting worked up about. If they can fix it, im sure they will, within reason. They have indicated they are aware of the issue, and as far as Im concerned, thats enough. I think that valve has gone above and beyond over the years. Sure, it was in their best interest, but its still way more than 98% of what other game developers have ever bothered to do, best interest or not. </soapbox> kev ->-----Original Message----- ->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Capriotti ->Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 7:15 AM ->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] New Security Modules -November 21 -> -> ->Eh... -> ->New world, new culture, new jargon, uh ? -> ->Anyway, stable sounds SO MUCH BETTER, doesn't it ? -> ->"What server are you running ?", "Oh, I am running the latest BETA." -> ->while -> ->"What server are you running ?", "Oh, I am running the latest STABLE." -> ->Ok. That's marketing. But - IRL - confuses us a little bit. -> -> ->At 08:01 AM 11/22/2002, you wrote: ->>In HLDS parlance, beta == the version you're expected to run if ->you want it ->>to work properly. I'm not sure why they don't just eventually upgrade its ->>status to 'stable', but usually the actual latest 'stable' ->version that you ->>_need_ to run is still termed a beta. ->> ->>-- trog -> ->_______________________________________________ ->To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list ->archives, please visit: ->http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux

