That sucks about the kid, damn we have some stupid companies around.
Least there's some people around that'll help, tis always nice to know
that =).

Must be hard to take down websites like multiplayercheats.de when they
have a disclaimer and it's hosted in some small country in the middle of
"whoop whoop" where they can legally abuse copyright :/

Guess we're stuck in the void then.  Programs like "Cheating Death"
aren't an option for most people, if the random updates don't put you
off, the inability to integrate it with whatever software you might
currently require your clients to use will.  HLGuard isn't good for 32
player servers.  PunkBuster doesn't support Half-Life or Half-Life 2.

If we could just have a thing like UT's mutators system where you can
download non-malicious code to the clients that will run we could get
cheat protection properly done by a third party who is willing to put in
the time :/  ATM 2 of the 32 player servers I'm an op on regularly get
JAP5's joining, it's getting to the point where if I go away from my
computer for ~3 hours, I come back and there's been 5 extremely obvious
hackers :|

- Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews



Morten AarÃe wrote:

Actually I am quite sure that the guy - ridiculous as he may be - is
right, at least in part. The DMCA is an American law which does not
apply to Sweden citizens or companies. However, mirroring copyrighted
material is a violation of several international copyright treaties
which do apply to Swedish companies too. If I'm right, it is a bit
unprofessional of the law-firm not to do their research properly,
though.

But, as Bruce mentions here, the main point is that it is not
economically a good idea to take down companies like that. The cost is
just too big compared to the benefits.

This eventually leads movie makers - and software companies - to
creating campaigns designed to scare people off in stead of pursuing the
matter correctly. This is usually done be picking on some little guy
just because it is cheap to set an example this way - the little guy
doesn't have the funds to defend himself in court. It is a byproduct of
the Internet, but for me it makes the big companies loose any moral
advantage they might have had in my book. I remember a case where some
big DVD consortium sued a young Norwegian (17 yo as far as I remember)
for discovering how the DVD encryption worked and publishing his code to
a BBS - the lawsuit was for many million USD. The main reason for people
being interested in this encryption was, incidentally, that noone would
release info on it so opensource OSs would be able to play DVDs.
Fortunately, in the end, some internet free speech organization took it
upon itself to defend the poor kid and afaik they did win the lawsuit.

My point is just that the reason so many people pirate games, music and
movies is that they donât feel they own the publishers anything. When
you have no sympathy for the guy you are buying stuff from you donât
mind cheating him out of a few bucks. I'm not trying to defend pirates,
but I do understand some of the feelings behind it.

Anyway, this is in no way comparable to myg0t, as they are just lamers
with one goal - to annoy everyone else. There is no justification at all
for doing destructive cracking like that. If they donât like the game,
they should just stay away. In a way I find it quite sad that people
exist with so much time on their hands and so little creativity that
they would rather spend their time annoying other people than building
something. They are obviously not stupid (some of them are not, anyway)
so why donât they just create in stead of destroy?

Hmm, this email got a bit long - maybe I should just go back to work in
stead of whining :-)

// Morten

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce
"Bahamut" Andrews
Sent: 25. oktober 2004 08:10
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] server crashed again


Yar well, while they have no idea what they're on about, the cost of pursuing the matter would be far too high to get any real benefit from it for Movie companies, so game developers are probably in the same situation. Unless they sorta made a large alliance and took them down together... :/

- Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews



Eric (Deacon) wrote:



In a bold display of creativity, Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews wrote:



I've mirrored (temporarily) an email sent by dreamworks in an attempt


to


shut down a site in Sweden mirroring Shrek 2 - as you'll notice, the
laws do not apply, and dreamworks are basically stuffed.
www.bahamutns.com/dreamworks_response.txt


For those who have not read it, the reply, which is wholly inaccurate
and outrageously ignorant goes as follows:



As you may or may not be aware, Sweden is not a state in the United
States of America. Sweden is a country in northern Europe.
Unless you figured it out by now, US law does not apply here.
For your information, no Swedish law is being violated.

Please be assured that any further contact with us, regardless of
medium, will result in
a) a suit being filed for harassment
b) a formal complaint lodged with the bar of your legal counsel, for
sending frivolous legal threats.

It is the opinion of us and our lawyers that you are fucking morons,


and


that you should please go sodomize yourself with retractable batons.

Please also note that your e-mail and letter will be published in full


on


http://www.thepiratebay.org.

Go fuck yourself.

Polite as usual,
anakata
<<<<

That reply is so typical of punkass kids with no clue, internet tough
guys who feel invincible behind their glowing screens.  If anything, I
would put the screws to this intarweb clown in order to prove a point,
take over the thepiratebay.org site, and post a summary of the whole
ordeal.

--
Eric (the Deacon remix)

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