Wrong. Read back in the mailing list a bit - I posted the valve press announcement from 2003 where they said 30% or more and it will get better. We saw a lot more than that and it was great. Then bam last june valve puts out vac2 with no 64bit so we are forced to run 32 bit. What does that mean - it means you can run about half as many server per box which means buying a lot more boxes.
----- Original Message ---- From: Jonas Tärnström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 3:21:23 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] VAC2 implementation for 64-bit binaries, status? I agree, don't really see the need for 64-bits that badly. You would gain a couple of percent performance 5% tops I would estimate. My thoughts about HLDS on AMD64: None of the integer arithmetics does really need 64 bits since they were first written for a 386 (32-bits) The only advantage with running AMD64 you would have 16 general purpose registers (instead of ~4). Most inner loops are probably gonna end up on the L1 cache anyways thus the gain of 16 registers wouldn't be that great. Please feel free to correct me if I am wrong. The people complaining the most of this matter doesn't really seem to know anything about the inner workings of a CPU neither do they conduct them selves in a civil manner. No wonder why most of the questions and replies on this mailinglist and up my "HLDS" Thunderbird map never to be red. Personally I don't think that the current Linux distributions are ready for AMD64. I've several years experience with development of Linux and drivers for it. //Regards JT DJ (e-Plutonia Inc.) wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Personally, I've heard of a few blackhats looking into jacking the source > codes, I am pretty sure if they ever pull that off they will begin their own > builds of HLDS / SRCDS. > > On 3/15/06, Bart van den Heuvel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Hahahaaaa What's the deal today! Must be a full moon out or something. >> >> Dude chill.... It's free, it's your choice. If you don't want to run >> Valve, please don't. I did not follow the whole thread on the 64bit stuff >> but, i must be missing something big. You make it sound like it's a must >> have. >> >> You do know that you can run 32 bits apps on a 32 bit install of your >> favorite Linux with a 64 bit kernel (you might have a 4gb+ memory >> requirement, or some other hardware related issue that makes you want 64 >> bit so badly)? >> >> Gr, >> >> Bart >> >> >> >>> -- >>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>> Another pompus asshole remark from Valve. Why we put up with not just >>> >> YOUR >> >>> smartass comments but the flagrant bullshit coming out of your company >>> >> is >> >>> fucking AMAZING. Personally, we're dropping all of Valve's products that >>> we >>> run for the community in the way of pubs. You, your company, and anybody >>> that's willing to put up with this kind of shit can find a nice quiet >>> corner >>> and fuck yourself. We're tired of you fucking us release after release. >>> Have >>> a nice fucking day. >>> >>> On 3/14/06, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> It will be ready when its ready, as I have said before. >>>> >>>> - Alfred >>>> >>>> Hans Vos wrote: >>>> >>>>> Alfred, >>>>> >>>>> Are you willing to share some light on this subject, instead of >>>>> leaving >>>>> us in the dark? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Kind regards, >>>>> >>>>> Hans Vos >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> > > > > -- > DJ Fadyeyev > Founder - e-Plutonia > -- > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
