What exactly is the reason for that other than that 64bit no longer functions? Why has VALVe not developed a 64bit variant of VAC2? Why was 64bit technology so touted by VALVe and then dumped?
-----Original Message----- From: Alfred Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 2:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] Speakeasy security module wont load no matter what Okay, but you can't run a server with the 64-bit binaries, that is why you are getting errors. - Alfred linux penguin wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Haha.........I dont > want to use the 32 bit binaries. Can you answer my question please? > Whats wrong with the speakeasy module. Why wont it load? > Thanks > > On 2/13/07, Alfred Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> That is the correct answer, use the 32-bit binaries. >> >> - Alfred >> >> Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: >>> Why do you even bother to do that. The answer is everytime the same: >>> >>> "There is no 64bit support now. The 32bit binaries should be used." >>> >>> Or there's also a good chance that they don't even answer you. :) >>> >>> linux penguin kirjoitti: >>>> -- >>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I just wrote to >>>> valve askin about this, will see what they say... >>>> >>>> On 2/13/07, Parker Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Same for me. Six servers, running with a patched hlds_run and the >>>>> outdated hlds_amd64 binary, and all of them do not load the >>>>> security module anymore for about two days (?) now. >>>>> >>>>> As it was a 50:50 chance in the past to get the secmod loaded on >>>>> serverstart, it's maybe only a temporary problem. >>>>> >>>>> But as Valve isn't able to compile the 64bit binaries for over a >>>>> year now (some people say they could but wont), it _could_ be the >>>>> end for our servers :(. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe someone from Valve can give us some information about that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> yours >>>>> pl >>>>> >>>>> --- linux penguin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I didnt say >>>>>> anything about VAC2, at least i didnt mean to because when i had >>>>>> a 32 bit server and when i used to start it it wouldnt say >>>>>> anything about Speakeasy module being loaded, it would only say >>>>>> VAC Secured or Not that is why i thaught the Speakeasy module >>>>>> only gets loaded on VAC1. What i am saying is that VAC1 wont >>>>>> load. It used to load. >>>>>> Last night i tried starting/stopping the server over 10 times now >>>>>> and i cant get secured with VAC1(the speakeasy module wount >>>>>> download). Port 27015 UDP/TCP is forwarded just like last time >>>>>> when VAC1 did load.(I have no firewall on the machine itsself, at >>>>>> least not yet) I just tried starting the esrver again (2 times) >>>>>> but the speakeasy module still wont load. >>>>>> I play on this one E-Frag server which also has VAC1 and they >>>>>> also said that it wont load, so surely somethings not right. My >>>>>> question is, does it still exist? What could be wrong? >>>>>> Thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/13/07, Regime <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello Linux penguin, >>>>>>> Several people have been trying to tell you this already, but I >>>>>>> >>>>>> don't >>>>>> >>>>>>> think you have read their posts very well.. One more time, as >>>>>>> >>>>>> simple as >>>>>> >>>>>>> possible: >>>>>>> You are now running the 64 bit binary that supports only VAC 1. >>>>>>> >>>>>> This >>>>>> >>>>>>> means your server will complain that it cannot load the >>>>>>> speakeasy >>>>>>> >>>>>> module >>>>>> >>>>>>> (VAC 2) and will not be 'secure'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Option 1: run the 32 bit binary (including the 32 bit versions >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>>> plugins you use) which is up to date and supports VAC 2. Use a >>>>>>> 64 >>>>>>> >>>>>> bit OS >>>>>> >>>>>>> and 32 bit emulation. Worst performance out of all options. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Option 2: run the 32 bit binary (including the 32 bit versions >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> >>>>>> the >>>>>> >>>>>>> plugins you use) which is up to date and supports VAC 2. Use a >>>>>>> 32 >>>>>>> >>>>>> bit >>>>>> >>>>>>> OS. Performance will be slightly better then with option 1. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Option 3: run the 64 bit binary (with the 64 bit versions of the >>>>>>> >>>>>> plugins >>>>>> >>>>>>> you use) and do not get VAC 2 support, but slightly better >>>>>>> >>>>>> performance >>>>>> >>>>>>> then with both options 1 and 2. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Even with VAC 2 you will get some cheaters playing on your >>>>>>> >>>>>> server, but >>>>>> >>>>>>> probably less then with VAC 1 only. It is for you to decide what >>>>>>> >>>>>> is more >>>>>> >>>>>>> important to you and base your decision on which binary you want >>>>>>> >>>>>> to run, >>>>>> >>>>>>> on that. By the sound of it, maybe renting a server from a GSP >>>>>>> >>>>>> would be >>>>>> >>>>>>> the best option of all for you. >>>>>>> Good luck, >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> Regime >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> linux penguin wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know i posted before that the speakeasy module wouldnt load >>>>>>>> >>>>>> but then >>>>>> >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> did. >>>>>>>> Now ive tried about 7-8 times and it wont load.(Server >>>>>>>> >>>>>> unsecure) >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just happens to be i was playing on this server which wasnt >>>>>>>> >>>>>> secure and >>>>>> >>>>>>> they >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> were talkin about hackers and said that VAC dont work >>>>>>>> >>>>>> anymore......I >>>>>> >>>>>>> dont >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> know if i mis-understood or something(it was in a different >>>>>>>> >>>>>> language but >>>>>> >>>>>>>> P) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is anyone else experiencing this? >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> >>>>>> archives, >>>>>> >>>>>>> please visit: >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________ >>>>> Der frühe Vogel fängt den Wurm. 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