One thing keeps me wondering, which is that why your server has C-class 
IP instead of A-class? This is propably the reason why it gets listed 
last after every A-class IP like your own.

-ics

J. Miribel kirjoitti:
> Hi all, hi TC,
>
> I agree all players from europe play on our servers but this is the case 
> because both you and I have big servers...
> On our CSS 64 ppl server, 55% of the players are from our country 
> (france) and on the 45% left 40 are from country around france: UK, 
> belgium, deutchland, spain etc... Eastern europe user won't connect 
> thats for sure ;)
>
>
> BUT: in my cas, our server shows up realllllyyyy late in server list, 
> all because the server list query will send me servers with IP near 
> mine, and my personnal IP starts with "82.xxx.xxx.xxx", the server is 
> "194.xxx.xxx.xxx"... My server is then full of servers from all over 
> Europe before I get servers from my own country.. This server filter is 
> out of date...
>
> There are at least 3 kinds of players:
> Those who look for a ffa server with a decent ping (and those won't play 
> far from homeland)
> Those who likes to play on special/modded servers (those we both welcome 
> everyday on our big servers TC)
> Those who are there for scrimm (and they already know the IP of the 
> server they'll play on)
>
> All I'm saying is that Valve should better filtrate the servers IP and 
> the server list should be sent depending on player's IP's COUNTRY / 
> Server IP's COUNTRY instead of player's IP / server's IP.
> Why ? Because RIPE / ARIN / LACNIC and other RIRs won't allocate subnets 
> by country anymore, therefore the server listing is done the wrong way ;)
>
>
> Best regards
>
> TC a écrit :
>   
>> " Do you really think UK players will play on Italian servers? Man they have
>> 1000+ decent servers in their country, they won't event think about
>> connecting to one..."
>>
>> Players tend to come from all over the place for servers in Europe which can
>> be seen if you geo-ip profile your own players. Below is an example snapshot
>> of players on our UKCS TF2 servers from yesterday. As you can see, they come
>> from a wide area and pings stay low with good connectivity. 
>>
>> Moment in time snapshot:
>>
>> http://images.ukcs.net/10002/tf2world.JPG
>>
>> I think prioritising the list winding outwards from the location of the
>> server would be a good thing, but not to stop at a country's boundary. The
>> master list could hold long/lat in the record, and then it’s a simple bit of
>> maths to work out distance between two co-ords allowing sorting by distance.
>> Ping is an approximation of that which they may think is better - they'd say
>> its not distance its ping that’s important. However, during a full server
>> list refresh the pings obtained tend to be totally wrong due to the overload
>> on the clients connection doing all the pings.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Miribel
>> Sent: 24 March 2008 13:16
>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Server redirect
>>
>> I still wonder why you can't use a dns instead of an IP... We should 
>> have a cvar like sv_favname...
>>
>> Lets say its blank by default -> favorites menu memorizes the IP of the 
>> server
>> When server admin sets something in like sv_favname "host.domain.com", 
>> then favorites memorizes the dns name...
>>
>> On the same kind of issue I still wonder why VALVe still uses their out 
>> of date server listing stuff... I have to wait 5 mins to see half of the 
>> servers of my country... I really think VALVe should geolocalize the 
>> player's IP and send the server list depending on the players country... 
>> I've been using goelocalization databases for quite a while now, thats 
>> really easy to implement... Too bad its not done already.. Do you really 
>> think UK players will play on Italian servers? Man they have 1000+ 
>> decent servers in their country, they won't event think about connecting 
>> to one...
>>
>> Best regards
>> Julian
>>
>> Andreas Grimm a écrit :
>>   
>>     
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> valve is still working on the function, that server admins can change ip
>>> addresses of gameservers without losing them in the steam favorites ...
>>>
>>> my tip: change the servername and post the new ip address ... and add
>>>     
>>>       
>> server
>>   
>>     
>>> messages, for example with mani's ad's messages, every 30 seconds, that
>>>     
>>>       
>> the
>>   
>>     
>>> server is out of date and it has a new ip address ... 
>>>
>>> i have done this a lot of times and it worked very well ...
>>>
>>> in css there are possibilies to pop up a dialog to ask a player if he
>>>     
>>>       
>> wants
>>   
>>     
>>> to connect to another server ... but im not sure how it works, never tried
>>> that ... but a plugin could make it: check www.sourcemod.net
>>>
>>> good luck
>>> andreas
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eirik
>>> Nilssen
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 3:30 PM
>>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
>>> Subject: [hlds_linux] Server redirect
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi guys, hope you can help me out here.
>>>  
>>> After experiencing a lot of problems with some of our servers hosted by
>>>     
>>>       
>> one
>>   
>>     
>>> of our communitys sponsors, we have decided to host them ourself. The
>>> problem is, that these servers are our most popular. Changing IP on a
>>> popular server is always risky business, so I wish to keep the old servers
>>> up a month or two, but making it redirect all traffic - with a message to
>>> the user about whats happening.
>>>  
>>> Have been browsing the net all day, but all links regarding "redirect"
>>> concerns file download.
>>>  
>>> All input would be gratly appreciated!
>>>  
>>> Best Regards
>>> Eirik S. Nilssen
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