Hi, O SHI-.. Im so scared...
And who said anything that anticheat should always ban cheaters? EAC works similar way than C-D, it prevents playing if you have modifications but wont ban you unless the detection is 100% sure. Tom Leighton kirjoitti: > So you have just admitted to reverse engineering VAC, which is a part of > STEAM. > This is a violation of the SSA and you are lucky if your Steam account > is not disabled. > / > / > > / E. Restrictions./ > > / Except as otherwise permitted under Section 2(C) with regard to the > SDK, you may not, in whole or in part, copy, photocopy, reproduce, > translate, reverse engineer, derive source code, modify, disassemble, > decompile, create derivative works based on, or remove any > proprietary notices or labels from the Steam Software or any > software accessed via Steam without the prior consent, in writing, of > Valve./ > > > > The reason I said that we don't know how VAC works is WE DONT. The > things that we do know are that it works off of some kind of checksums, > which is the only way that it could not produce false positives. > > Being an anticheat developer myself, I wouldn't even think about making > the one I work on support any VAC games, because the risk is far too > high. We will be sticking to older games and games which use punkbuster > (Which can definately be turned off). > > Donnie Newlove wrote: > >> I do not believe that is a secret, but that how they can be certain >> that VAC does not produce false positives. >> >> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Valtteri Kiviniemi >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Of course it would tell via rcon say or some other way that server is >>> not secure anymore and then maybe do quick reboot for the server. >>> >>> And I know how VAC work because I am developing anticheat so I have of >>> course looked into VAC. And so does anyone else who has some asm/c/c++ >>> coding skills and wants to find out. Im not telling any specific details >>> about it, but I can tell that i'ts not very efficient and it does only >>> detect hacks which hashes it has on its database. So it's not really a >>> real time scan/protection against hacks because it needs to have the >>> hack what you are using in its database so it protects you for known >>> public hacks etc. >>> >>> Tom Leighton kirjoitti: >>> >>> >>>> Don't mind me, but that would enable people to be playing a match and >>>> then VAC to be disabled when it starts... leading to people believing it >>>> is vac secured when it is not. >>>> >>>> Also, I wouldn't trust ANY other program to "Protect my game from >>>> kernelhacks and aimbots", simply because we don't know how VAC works and >>>> I really do not want to piss it off... >>>> >>>> Valtteri Kiviniemi wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Could it be possible to add a cvar like sv_secure that would specify if >>>>> server is secure or not. I mean that you could disable or enable VAC via >>>>> cvar without having to restart the server. Or if that's not possible, >>>>> maybe add a command that would disable or enable VAC and reboot >>>>> automatically the server. >>>>> >>>>> The reason why im asking this is because we are developing a anticheat >>>>> called EasyAntiCheat ( http://www.easyanticheat.net/ ) which is not >>>>> compatible with VAC. And some customer wants to disable EAC and use VAC2 >>>>> (mainly because of some foreign CUP's that are not aware of EAC and >>>>> requires server to be VAC2 enabled). >>>>> >>>>> So it would be easier to customers if they just could enable or disable >>>>> VAC if wanted to. >>>>> >>>>> Just a suggestion. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- Ystävällisin terveisin, Dataproof Aleksanterinkatu 7 A 14 15110 LAHTI puh. 0405166397 Valtteri Kiviniemi _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
