I stuck with it as well because it was what I knew, and was reliable, 
and did everything I wanted it to do.  Beyond that, the Blatt Map plugin 
for AdminMod/LogD was for a very long time /the/ best map voting plugin 
written.  The very latest version of Deagle's Map Manager for AMX Mod X 
is finally as good and reliable as it was, but it was a mess until 
someone cleaned up the code not too long ago.

Drek

Rick Payton wrote:
> If admin mod was still being updated, I would've used that when I got
> back into running a server, simply because it's what I know. Granted, I
> have no issues with amxmodx, as it works great also, I just would've
> preferred sticking with what I know, if it wasn't for the lack of
> updates. And I don't blame Alfred for not supporting it anymore, as he
> has a more pressing job of keeping linux server admins happy ;)
>
> mauirixxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crazy
> Canucks
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:32 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [BUG} HLTV not showing on player list
>
> Not trying to give you a hard time, but if you want my opinion, it's 
> time to upgrade.  I used AdminMod for many years, but started having 
> stability issues a year or two after it stopped being updated, so I 
> officially retired it.  AMX Mod X really is the way to go.  ;)
>
> Drek
>
> Ronny Schedel wrote:
>   
>> Not everyone uses AMX. I am an oldschool Adminmod user, made by Alfred
>>     
>
>   
>> Reynolds :)
>>
>>   
>>     
>>> amx_reservation 1
>>> amx_hideslots 0
>>> sv_visiblemaxplayers (maxplayers - 1)
>>>
>>> And will work!
>>>
>>> If you don't belive you can test it on my servers
>>>
>>> http://forum.ster-gaming.pl
>>>
>>> CS 1.6 FFA
>>> CS 1.6 H'n'S
>>> CS 1.6 TP
>>>
>>> Everything works fine with this solution.
>>> But valve should repair this bug.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Ronny Schedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>       
>
>   
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> sv_visiblemaxplayers is set by the admin plugin automatically
>>>>         
> according 
>   
>>>> to
>>>> maxplayers - reserved slots. HLTV is a real player on the server for
>>>>         
> the
>   
>>>> plugin, because it is present and take one slot. HLTV was counted as
>>>>         
> a
>   
>>>> player before this update and it was displayed in the server status.
>>>>         
> It's
>   
>>>> the same with SourceTV, it is right now counted as player and it is
>>>>         
> shown
>   
>>>> in
>>>> server status. As you can see, I have no chance to change the
>>>> sv_visiblemaxplayers, because this is set automatically by the
>>>>         
> plugin. 
>   
>>>> And
>>>> the plugin handles the reserved slots.
>>>>
>>>> This needs to be fixed by Valve, a workaround is not suitable.
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> I do understand problem - HLTV no longer appears as a player so
>>>>>           
> you've
>   
>>>>> got free slot which is not actually free for regular players. That
>>>>>           
> is
>   
>>>>> why I'm suggesting to reduce number of visible slots down to 24 so
>>>>> that your regular players will see server as full while your
>>>>>           
> players
>   
>>>>> with reserved slot will still be able to connect via console as
>>>>>           
> usual.
>   
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Ronny Schedel
>>>>>           
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> You don't understand the problem, 24 slots are taken by players, 1
>>>>>>             
>
>   
>>>>>> slot
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> taken by HLTV, so 25 slots are occupied. But the server status
>>>>>>             
> shows
>   
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>> only
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>> 24
>>>>>> occupied slots, instead of 25. Our players think there is a free
>>>>>>             
> slot
>   
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>> and
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>> they want to join, but they can't, because HLTV is not counted as 
>>>>>> player
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> not shown in the server status.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Make it 24 then, why bother to show HLTV slot which got empty
>>>>>>>               
> after
>   
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>> this
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>>> update?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Ronny Schedel
>>>>>>>               
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> sv_visiblemaxplayers is 25, maxplayers is 26, one reserved slot,
>>>>>>>>                 
> one
>   
>>>>>>>> slot
>>>>>>>> taken by HLTV
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> sv_visiblemaxplayers 24?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Ronny Schedel 
>>>>>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> This needs to be fixed ASAP. We get complaints from players
>>>>>>>>>>                     
> now, 
>   
>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>> wants
>>>>>>>>>> to connect to our full servers. We have a maximum of 25
>>>>>>>>>>                     
> players, 
>   
>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>> slot
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> taken by HLTV. Before the update, the full server showed 25/25
>>>>>>>>>> players,
>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>> it shows 24/25. Players get rejected if they connect to a full
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>> server
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>> now,
>>>>>>>>>> which is showing 24/25, because of the missing HLTV as player.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ronny Schedel
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's not possible to see HLTV in player list by querying the 
>>>>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> not even in steam favorites player list.
>>>>>>>>>>> I have this confirmed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Is Valve going to do something about it?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kveri
>>>>>>>>>>>
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