> Lol, you are using Mani Admin Plugin, the most outdated and inestable
> plugin ever, use beetlesmod or sourcemod
>
> -Rodrigo

Yeah, seriously.  He's only been AFK for about what, 2 years now?

When we first started running TF2 servers (when TF2 came out) I tried the
"orangebox" edition of Mani (the one thing he seems to have done for
Mani Admin Plugin in the last couple years) and when I found that half of
the stuff that wasn't CS:S-specific anyway didn't work right, I decided
it was time to "move on".

You really should get rid of Mani, even if it isn't the cause of your
crashes.  It's DEAD.  iirc there are a couple sourcemod plugin scripts
that will give you some additional "compatibility" command translation
for sourcemod, so you can keep using the mani commands.

Beetlemod is pretty good.  Sourcemod is pretty good too, and as an added
bonus you can code your own stuff for it without having to recompile
everything else too if you are so inclined.

We're 100% sourcemod now on all servers (CS:S, TF2, L4D).  Being able to
change thing we don't like about the "stock" way some plugin scripts are
written is important to us.




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