Seems you understand what I had in mind just fine. The hostname never needs to be looked up unless the user goes to the favorites list. And it is not an issue for the client to do DNS lookups. That the way the Internet works.
At any time the user attempts to add a server to favorites, the client can ask the server if it has a DNS name. If it does, add it by name. If not, add it by IP. I wanted this for a long time. I only ran home servers. Had loads of fun. But every 6 or so months my IP address would change and I would loose all my regular players. Some of they would find me again, over time. It sucked. This is not rocket science. I just hope Valve sees the value in it. Oh, anyone that thinks DNS looks up are bad, just consider that when you go to the server browser, the client does (or attempts) tens of thousands of servers queries. These are orders of magnitude more than the extra tens of DNS lookups that would be done when going to the favorites tab. } -----Original Message----- } From: [email protected] [mailto:hlds_linux- } [email protected]] On Behalf Of Andrew Armitage } Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 6:01 AM } To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Request: Adding servers by domain name } } What? } } If the user manually adds a server manually then you use the name or the } address that they enter. If the user 'favourites' a server that they } are playing on then you use the name if the server has one configured, } or the address if not. } } If you want to include the case where a user 'favourites' a server that } they aren't playing on, then the client just needs to ask the server } whether it has a 'name' set, and use that. } } There's NO NEED to change the master servers. } } If users do a list and some of the names are no longer valid then treat } it exactly the same as if the server itself doesn't respond. } } There's no need for some crazy back-end thread updating addresses, you } look it up when you need it. DNS servers have caching, there's no need } to reproduce that functionality in the client. } } If the DNS servers aren't working then the user will be more worried } about not be able to access the web. } } } Summary: } 1) A cvar for storing the server name. } 2) Client can store a name rather than address in favourites. } 3) A client can ask a server for its name. } } } } } } Björn Rohlén wrote: } > This might not be as easy as it sounds. SAF might look something like } this: } > - Did user add by hostname or ip4/ip6? store accordingly, no reverse } lookup. } > - If user added by hostname, resolve and store ip and hostname } accordingly, } > reverse lookups still useless. } > - Solve the problem with not sending a whole barrel of queries from the } > users favorite list when some crazy bastards have a hundred or so of } them, } > click the fav-tab and whine to no end when 15-30 of them no longer } resolves } > and the oddities that follows due to timeouts. } > } > Now.... } > } > Possibly letting the user update the stored static ip if s/he chooses } to, or } > do it slowly in the background (awesome, more threaded bugs, leaks and } > overcomplicating things). Confusion from "casual" players with the } > updating-process commences. DNS-problems yet another point of failure } when } > people are trying to play online. Should masterservers be rewritten to } allow } > server operators to list their hostname on them to serve the clients? } > Obviously this would be a very bad idea, so we´re back to favorites. ALL } OF } > THIS for manually adding hostnames to favorites? } > } > Oh yeah, this will be fun. } > } > -The Gryzowrg } > On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Andrew Armitage } <[email protected]>wrote: } > } >> This would make the lives of server admins a LOT easier. } >> } >> Moving the server from one machine to another, for upgrades, extra } capacity } >> etc. has always been a nightmare, and it takes ages to get our } irregular } >> players back.Victoria Conlan wrote: } > } >> } >> If they all remembered us by name then it would be a doddle! } >> } >> A } >> } >> } >> On 25/06/2011 01:02, Guy Watkins wrote: } >> } >>> The hostname should be in a CVAR and returned when the server is } queried. } >>> It could be displayed in the browser without ever looking it up, but } no } >>> need } >>> to display it in the browser, since you know the IP address at this } time } >>> and } >>> can connect to it by IP. However, when you save it in favorites, it } >>> should } >>> save the hostname if one exists in the CVAR. } >>> } >>> Maybe the browser could display the hostname when you hover over an } entry? } >>> } >>> This was talked about before on May 10 2010 relating to IPv6. The } subject } >>> was: "IPv6 Support" } >>> } >>> Like this: } >>> sv_hostname=myserver.com:27016 } >>> } >>> Guy } >>> } >>> } >> ______________________________**_________________ } >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } >> please visit: } >> } http://list.valvesoftware.com/**mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux<http://list.va } lvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux> } >> } > _______________________________________________ } > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux } } } _______________________________________________ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
