http://forums.alliedmods.net/showpost.php?p=1498002&postcount=2507

Simple as that, and dont be scared to be banning the wrong ones, cos the chance 
is quite low.


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>From: AnAkIn . <[email protected]>
>To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list 
><[email protected]>
>Sent: Wednesday, 27 July 2011, 1:34
>Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Free to Play - Infinite piles of cheaters and 
>griefers?
>
>There is a very popular public cheat that people are using since months (I
>know some people who are using it since April - no VAC bans) and is still
>not VAC detected. I have already reported it to Valve few weeks ago, and
>they still haven't done anything. There are new people using it on my
>servers every day. One of them is creating a new steam account every time I
>ban him, he then comes back and start cheating again.
>
>I'm afraid these "infinite free accounts" measures that Valve has taken
>according to the F2P FAQ are totally useless.
>
>2011/6/26 AnAkIn . <[email protected]>
>
>> You can still use DBlocker against cheaters, even if it won't detect all of
>> them, it will detect some.
>>
>> http://dblocker.didrole.com/
>>
>>
>> 2011/6/24 msleeper <[email protected]>
>>
>>> I would pay top dollar* for a SM plugin that disables shit like voice
>>> chat and sprays for free accounts. Or a cvar that disallows free
>>> accounts from joining the server. I think there is already 1 plugin
>>> that kicks them.
>>>
>>> * I will not pay any money for plugins, ever.
>>>
>>> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:39 AM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> Besides the fact that VAC is crap and doesn't work for an inordinately
>>> large
>>> >> amount of cheating/hacking we see on our servers, what about all the
>>> bans in
>>> >> our sourcebans database against griefers, who aren't eligible for a VAC
>>> ban,
>>> >> or the racist douchebags we permban on a daily basis?  What about the
>>> people
>>> >> who spray porn and goatse all over our servers while we attempt to keep
>>> the
>>> >> activity on our servers at least slightly above the retard line?
>>> >>
>>> >> I guess the good sourcemod devs are going to have to get together to
>>> find a
>>> >> way of identifying new ways to ban people based on what information it
>>> is
>>> >> possible to gather about a person's computer that is unique (or at
>>> least
>>> >> close enough to unique).
>>> >>
>>> >> --Matt
>>> >>
>>> >> On 06/24/2011 01:30 AM, Richard Eid wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> In the FAQ, Valve mentioned that they're working on something to
>>> battle
>>> >>> this.  My guess is that they'll probably try to track the patterns of
>>> >>> people
>>> >>> who start to do this, so the system can quickly recognize those same
>>> >>> patterns in the future and be a little more proactive instead of
>>> reactive.
>>> >>>  I think Steam Guard could help a little here, too.  IP addresses can
>>> >>> easily
>>> >>> be changed, new free accounts can be made, etc...  But Steam Guard is
>>> tied
>>> >>> to your PC so it could(maybe) be used to verify clients on your
>>> server.
>>> >>>  People only have so many PCs they can use.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Either way, I'm sure we'll be filled in on the details as soon as
>>> Valve
>>> >>> has
>>> >>> something to announce.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>                                                      -Richard Eid
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Flubber<[email protected]>  wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> You keeding, we got VAC, the most powerful tools against cheating. :D
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> 2011/6/24 Octo<[email protected]>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> I always felt like we saw a surge in cheaters and griefers directly
>>> >>>>> after
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> a
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> super cheap sale of TF2.  Now that TF2 has went Free to Play is
>>> there
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> going
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> to be anything to try to limit how many steam accounts a cheater can
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> create?
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
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