Yes, we end up just using ip bans as well it's the only way to get rid of them for the most part. Most ip's can change quickly though.
Also ip ban is not always best as well. Yet iptables does a good job at it. > Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 01:34:52 +0200 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Free to Play - Infinite piles of cheaters and > griefers? > > There is a very popular public cheat that people are using since months (I > know some people who are using it since April - no VAC bans) and is still > not VAC detected. I have already reported it to Valve few weeks ago, and > they still haven't done anything. There are new people using it on my > servers every day. One of them is creating a new steam account every time I > ban him, he then comes back and start cheating again. > > I'm afraid these "infinite free accounts" measures that Valve has taken > according to the F2P FAQ are totally useless. > > 2011/6/26 AnAkIn . <[email protected]> > > > You can still use DBlocker against cheaters, even if it won't detect all of > > them, it will detect some. > > > > http://dblocker.didrole.com/ > > > > > > 2011/6/24 msleeper <[email protected]> > > > >> I would pay top dollar* for a SM plugin that disables shit like voice > >> chat and sprays for free accounts. Or a cvar that disallows free > >> accounts from joining the server. I think there is already 1 plugin > >> that kicks them. > >> > >> * I will not pay any money for plugins, ever. > >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:39 AM, Matt <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Besides the fact that VAC is crap and doesn't work for an inordinately > >> large > >> >> amount of cheating/hacking we see on our servers, what about all the > >> bans in > >> >> our sourcebans database against griefers, who aren't eligible for a VAC > >> ban, > >> >> or the racist douchebags we permban on a daily basis? What about the > >> people > >> >> who spray porn and goatse all over our servers while we attempt to keep > >> the > >> >> activity on our servers at least slightly above the retard line? > >> >> > >> >> I guess the good sourcemod devs are going to have to get together to > >> find a > >> >> way of identifying new ways to ban people based on what information it > >> is > >> >> possible to gather about a person's computer that is unique (or at > >> least > >> >> close enough to unique). > >> >> > >> >> --Matt > >> >> > >> >> On 06/24/2011 01:30 AM, Richard Eid wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> In the FAQ, Valve mentioned that they're working on something to > >> battle > >> >>> this. My guess is that they'll probably try to track the patterns of > >> >>> people > >> >>> who start to do this, so the system can quickly recognize those same > >> >>> patterns in the future and be a little more proactive instead of > >> reactive. > >> >>> I think Steam Guard could help a little here, too. IP addresses can > >> >>> easily > >> >>> be changed, new free accounts can be made, etc... But Steam Guard is > >> tied > >> >>> to your PC so it could(maybe) be used to verify clients on your > >> server. > >> >>> People only have so many PCs they can use. > >> >>> > >> >>> Either way, I'm sure we'll be filled in on the details as soon as > >> Valve > >> >>> has > >> >>> something to announce. > >> >>> > >> >>> -Richard Eid > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 2:15 AM, Flubber<[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> You keeding, we got VAC, the most powerful tools against cheating. :D > >> >>>> > >> >>>> 2011/6/24 Octo<[email protected]> > >> >>>> > >> >>>>> I always felt like we saw a surge in cheaters and griefers directly > >> >>>>> after > >> >>>> > >> >>>> a > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> super cheap sale of TF2. Now that TF2 has went Free to Play is > >> there > >> >>>> > >> >>>> going > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> to be anything to try to limit how many steam accounts a cheater can > >> >>>> > >> >>>> create? > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, > >> >>>>> please visit: > >> >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > >> archives, > >> >>>> please visit: > >> >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> >>>> > >> >>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> >>> please visit: > >> >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> >> please visit: > >> >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Michelle Sleeper > >> > http://www.ThinkingWithPortals.com/ > >> > Portal 2 Mapping Community > >> > > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > AnAkIn, > > ------------- > > ESL EU TF2 Admin > > http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 > > > > > > > -- > Best regards, > AnAkIn, > ------------- > ESL EU TF2 Admin > http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
