Theoretically I guess so, but I imagine Valve has put in some kind of IP checking-device. I mean I guess they COULD get a different IP each time but if one person can go through that whole process to the point where you're actually blacklisted then I guess bravo to them. I used to be paranoid about being caught in the "blacklist hell" when the server crashes (especially after updates like the last ones) a bunch but I've found they kept with their original word and are only filtering out the really bad servers.
Here is the post that outlines what they did/doing/have done/whatever http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2338&p=7 On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:19 AM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > So can people generate f2p accounts and bomb a competitor's server? > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:14 AM, doc <[email protected]> wrote: >> The reputation Valve keeps on the backend was explained by them in >> some blog post but in short whenever someone joins your server, you >> lose points. Then for every minute they are there you gain 1 point, >> and after 15 minutes the player has "paid" for the points loss they >> created. >> >> This is to stop a server from advertising "SUPER FUN", and then you >> get in and realize it's all bots and idlers and it's not fun, so you >> leave ASAP. >> >> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Michael Johansen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> So, if I have a lot of regulars on my servers, and they play for a long >>> time, my servers rep. will stay high? And what is "good" in terms of >>> points? I'm currently at vacation and i can't do anything with the servers >>> sadly so I haven't got to tried the plugin yet. >>> >>>> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 13:22:30 -0400 >>>> From: [email protected] >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update >>>> >>>> If you're talking about the "Standing" message you get during startup, >>>> that's just your quick play matchmaking score - Fletcher said >>>> yesterday that this is not tied to the "reputation" that blacklists >>>> shitty servers. One of mine got a "Bad" standing yesterday because it >>>> was crashing too, but it's back into "Good". Don't worry too much >>>> about it. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Michelle Sleeper <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > If you're talking about the "Standing" message you get during startup, >>>> > that's just your quick play matchmaking score - Fletcher said >>>> > yesterday that this is not tied to the "reputation" that blacklists >>>> > shitty servers. One of mine got a "Bad" standing yesterday because it >>>> > was crashing too, but it's back into "Good". Don't worry too much >>>> > about it. >>>> > >>>> > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Ronny Schedel <[email protected]> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >> How do you check the reputation? >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: AnAkIn . >>>> >> Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 7:12 PM >>>> >> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >>>> >> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update >>>> >> >>>> >> Great, 2 of my servers on the same IP just got banned from the master >>>> >> server >>>> >> due to one of them reputation being too low. One got 98 and the other >>>> >> one >>>> >> -763. Not surprising considering the server crashes. >>>> >> >>>> >> 2011/7/29 Ross Bemrose <[email protected]> >>>> >> >>>> >>> Maybe I'm just lucky... I haven't seen that many server crashes >>>> >>> lately. I >>>> >>> had none yesterday when I played for roughly 3 hours, so I could >>>> >>> monitor >>>> >>> the >>>> >>> situation. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> None of my users have reported crashes recently either. Makes me >>>> >>> wonder >>>> >>> if >>>> >>> one of my extensions is protecting me from unexplained crashes. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Servers 1 & 2: >>>> >>> OS: Ubuntu 10.04.3 64-bit >>>> >>> Server mods: MM:Source 1.8.7, SourceMod 1.3.8 >>>> >>> SM Extensions (excluding defaults): Socket, Server Secure - Files Only, >>>> >>> CBaseServer tools, SDK Hooks >>>> >>> SM Plugins (excluding defaults): Superlogs: TF2, HLStatsX:CE, Name >>>> >>> Change >>>> >>> Punisher, Custom Votes, Mapchooser Extended, Mapchooser Extended >>>> >>> Sounds, >>>> >>> TF2 >>>> >>> FF on during waiting for players, Spray Tracer, Deadchat, Immunity >>>> >>> Reserve >>>> >>> Slots, SourceBans, Rock the Vote (SM), Nominations (SM), Kigen's >>>> >>> Anti-Cheat, >>>> >>> Maplister >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> Servers 3 & 4: >>>> >>> OS: Debian Squeeze 64-bit >>>> >>> Server mods: MM:Source 1.8.7, SourceMod 1.3.8 >>>> >>> SM Extensions (excluding defaults): Socket, Server Secure - Files Only, >>>> >>> CBaseServer tools, SDK Hooks >>>> >>> SM Plugins (excluding defaults): Superlogs: TF2, HLStatsX:CE, Name >>>> >>> Change >>>> >>> Punisher, Custom Votes, Mapchooser Extended, Mapchooser Extended >>>> >>> Sounds, >>>> >>> TF2 >>>> >>> FF on during waiting for players, Spray Tracer, Deadchat, Immunity >>>> >>> Reserve >>>> >>> Slots, SourceBans, Rock the Vote (SM), Nominations (SM), Kigen's >>>> >>> Anti-Cheat >>>> >>> >>>> >>> None of the weapons are disabled on my servers. >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Info <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>> >>>> >>> > My server has the latest sm/mm, no replays, disabled weaps (lasers, >>>> >>> > mantreads). I can reliably reproduce crashes on map change (it >>>> >>> > happens >>>> >>> > 80-90% of the time). Hopefully Valve has something in mind that >>>> >>> > will > >>>> >>> > get >>>> >>> > released today--another weekend with broken code is not promising. >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 08:25, Saint K. <[email protected]> >>>> >>> wrote: >>>> >>> > >>>> >>> > > We're had 3 crashes which created mini dumps today - I've sent >>>> >>> > > them > >>>> >>> > > > off >>>> >>> > to >>>> >>> > > VALVe. >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > Saint K. >>>> >>> > > ________________________________________ >>>> >>> > > From: [email protected] [ >>>> >>> > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of AnAkIn . [ >>>> >>> > > [email protected]] >>>> >>> > > Sent: 29 July 2011 17:11 >>>> >>> > > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >>>> >>> > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Team Fortress 2 Update >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > I didn't have any more crashes yet, but I just had a server hang. >>>> >>> > > No >>>> >>> > crash >>>> >>> > > dumps. >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > 2011/7/29 srcds admin <[email protected]> >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > > Taking a look at my server logs... this looks very interesting.. >>>> >>> > > > 800 >>>> >>> > > > invalid physics calls in a row. >>>> >>> > > > >>>> >>> > > > http://pastebin.com/HTjESY2G >>>> >>> > > > >>>> >>> > > > On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:47:36 -0600, srcds admin >>>> >>> > > > <[email protected]> >>>> >>> > > > wrote: >>>> >>> > > > > I had a crash last night, but don't have any details. This >>>> >>> > > > > wasn't >>>> >>> on >>>> >>> > > > map >>>> >>> > > > > change as I run a 24/7 single map server. Seems alot more >>>> >>> > > > > stable >>>> >>> than >>>> >>> > > it >>>> >>> > > > > was, but there is still something causing crashes. I have the >>>> >>> > > > > new >>>> >>> > weps >>>> >>> > > > > enabled. >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 08:59:36 -0400, Rodrigo Peña < >>>> >>> > > [email protected]> >>>> >>> > > > > wrote: >>>> >>> > > > >> I waited a long time to say this since I could be wrong >>>> >>> > > > >> >>>> >>> > > > >> No single crashes here.. >>>> >>> > > > >> >>>> >>> > > > >> My last crash was at vphysics update (before cow mangler). >>>> >>> > > > >> >>>> >>> > > > >> My environment: >>>> >>> > > > >> -Intel core i7 930(or 920 don't remember at this time) @ >>>> >>> > > > >> 3.2ghz >>>> >>> > > > >> -8gb ram >>>> >>> > > > >> -Debian Lenny stock kernel >>>> >>> > > > >> >>>> >>> > > > >> Server: >>>> >>> > > > >> -Replay enabled (local filehost) >>>> >>> > > > >> -Sourcemod >>>> >>> > > > >> -SourceOP >>>> >>> > > > >> -28 slot server >>>> >>> > > > >> >>>> >>> > > > >> Hosted in South America. >>>> >>> > > > >> >>>> >>> > > > >> The only big problem I've had is a international bandwidth >>>> >>> > > > >> outage >>>> >>> in >>>> >>> > > > the >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > >> datacenter that caused all valve servers to freeze at startup >>>> >>> > because >>>> >>> > > a >>>> >>> > > > >>>> >>> > > > >> connection to a valve master server made synchronously. To >>>> >>> address >>>> >>> > > > this >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > >> issue I had to block all valve IPs with route command (using >>>> >>> strings >>>> >>> > > to >>>> >>> > > > >>>> >>> > > > >> find them in libraries). >>>> >>> > > > >> >>>> >>> > > > >> It would be great if valve could fix by making initial >>>> >>> > > > >> connection >>>> >>> to >>>> >>> > > > >> master server asynchronously, like the connection to item >>>> >>> > > > >> server >>>> >>> > (not >>>> >>> > > > >> sure) so it prevents the server hang if there's a network >>>> >>> > > > >> outage >>>> >>> or >>>> >>> > a >>>> >>> > > > >> inoperating valve master server (this happened years ago) >>>> >>> > > > >> >>>> >>> > > > >> -Rodrigo >>>> >>> > > > >> >>>> >>> > > > >> >>>> >>> > > > >> On 29-07-2011 8:16, Peter Reinhold wrote: >>>> >>> > > > >>> On Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:03:17 +0300, Bajdechi "Nightbox" > > > >>>> >>> > > > >>> >>> Alexandru >>>> >>> > > > > wrote: >>>> >>> > > > >>>> +1, after changelevel. >>>> >>> > > > >>> >>>> >>> > > > >>> I've had a couple of those as well today. >>>> >>> > > > >>> >>>> >>> > > > >>> >>>> >>> > > > >>> /Peter >>>> >>> > > > >>> >>>> >>> > > > >>> >>>> >>> > > > >>> >>>> >>> > > > >>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> > > > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> >>> > > archives, >>>> >>> > > > >>>> >>> > > > >>> please visit: >>>> >>> > > > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>> > > > >>> >>>> >>> > > > >> >>>> >>> > > > >> >>>> >>> > > > >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> >>> > archives, >>>> >>> > > > >> please visit: >>>> >>> > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>> > > > > >>>> >>> > > > > _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> >>> > archives, >>>> >>> > > > > please visit: >>>> >>> > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>> > > > >>>> >>> > > > _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> >>> archives, >>>> >>> > > > please visit: >>>> >>> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>> > > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > -- >>>> >>> > > Best regards, >>>> >>> > > AnAkIn, >>>> >>> > > ------------- >>>> >>> > > ESL EU TF2 Admin >>>> >>> > > http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 >>>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>> >>> > > archives, >>>> >>> > > please visit: >>>> >>> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>> >>> > > >>>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>> >>> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view 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