I for one am completly opposed to moving this to a forum.  The exception
would be similar to msleeper's suggestions on Google groups.  The
functionality should be mailing list first, forum second.  I appreciate the
way Google has handled it, where the mailing list can continue to function
like a mailing list.  Those who prefer the forum style can still participate
as a forum on the site -- but there's no functionality lost for the mailing
list individuals.

I don't see a reason for the list to be changed.  If you don't like the spam
from certain topics, and your mail client doesn't have a way to ignore a
conversation, get a better mail client.  For me, when a topic comes across
the list serve that I have no interest in, a simple Gmail mute removes all
that clutter from my inbox.  However all still searchable.

On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 8:22 PM, Ronny Schedel <[email protected]>wrote:

> If I receive the full message like now, it's not a problem. I don't like
> messages that just say "There is a new entry in topic blabla, click this
> link to read it".
>
>
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Fletcher Dunn
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:42 AM
>
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list ;
> [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
>
> What if you got an email when there was a new post?  (That's what I meant
> by "push notification".)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: 
> hlds_linux-bounces@list.**valvesoftware.com<[email protected]>[mailto:
> hlds_linux-bounces@**list.valvesoftware.com<[email protected]>]
> On Behalf Of Ronny Schedel
> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 5:41 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
>
> Never ever change this to a forum. I prefer to have one place to check
> important things, so I have added several mailing lists. Otherwise I had to
> check every forum on the planet to get the informations, that's back to
> stone age.
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Fletcher Dunn
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:34 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list ;
> [email protected]
> Subject: [hlds_linux] Forum vs. email list
>
>  I am honestly astounded by the amount of people who complain when
>> people ask for help on help forums or mailing lists. Not everyone
>> signs up and instantly reads everything, goes through all the
>> archives, or spends hours researching.
>>
>
> I'd like to use this comment as a springboard for a discussion about the
> format of this list.
>
> I hear that a few years ago the idea of migrating the email list to a forum
> was kicked around.  However, at the time (is this still true today?) the
> users of the list didn't like the idea.  it is my understanding that most
> server admins prefer:
>
> 1.) Receiving push notifications.
> 2.) Viewing the list in their email client
>
> #1 seems like a really compelling advantage (especially for announcements),
> while #2 seems like a personal preference, and many people have the
> opposite
> preference.
>
> A forum has several compelling advantages:
>
> 1.) Easier to search and find answers to previously asked questions
> 2.) Easier to follow a thread of conversation.  (I personally find any
> email
> distribution list to become unreadable pretty much instantly, with all the
>
>>  's and broken line breaks that everybody's mail clients and put
>>>>>
>>>> everywhere.)
> 3.) Easier to modify your post if you notice a mistake or want to clarify
> something, rather than making a new post.
> 4.) Easier to delete or move posts if they are spam, rude, inappropriate,
> belong in the general TF2 SPUF forum, etc.
> 5.) Easier to ignore an entire thread that you are not interested in.
>
> Could there be some sort of forum + push notification that would satisfy
> what everybody wants?  This list exists to serve you guys, so I'm curious
> what everything thinks.  I *believe* most of the guys would find a forum
> format (perhaps with some push notification) more convenient.
>
> It would be good to get some opinions about how people prefer to consume
> the
> information on this list.
>
> Please chime in.
>
> Your humble servant,
> - Fletch
>
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