Clan tag protect + bots with tags + replay/sourcetv bot with tag = autobanned name change hackers.
Though I think there's a plugin for that which might work better. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Fletcher Dunn <[email protected]>wrote: > I don't think we would find that abusive. > > I also note that I cannot imagine that a normal player would have any > reason to report abuse against that, either. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of 1nsane > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 1:27 PM > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] [hlds] About the TF2 in-game abuse reporting tool > > So if I use a plugin that renames bots but does not otherwise disguise them > as real players (no ping, no steam ids in status) I should be fine? > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Fletcher Dunn > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > We are going to add a combo box to the abuse reporting tool and enumerate > > some categories of abuse. We hope that will help both players and agme > > servers get an idea of what we consider abusive. However, those are just > > examples. There will always be an "other" category, and there's a reason > we > > require the description field. The system is purposefully fuzzy. > > > > The purpose of the in-game abuse reporter is to identify game servers > where > > players are not having fun, due to a game server atmosphere. This > > negatively affects our game as a whole. We're not going to draw a bright > > line and define precisely what is OK and what is not. If your users are > > reporting a high degree of abuse, we're going to read the descriptions of > > what they are saying and decide if we think it's reasonable or not. > > > > As I said in the other post, if your players are having fun, I think you > > have nothing to worry about. The purpose of this tool is locate the > worst > > offenses. We will not be straying into the gray area or punishing > > well-intentioned game server operators who experimenting with rule > changes, > > or who get abuse reports just because some people don't like nocrits or > > medieval mode. > > > > I think everybody here can understand that there is quite a difference > > between purposefully concealing major rule changes (i.e. hacking the tags > > that are designed to advertise those rule changes, purposefully making > bots > > look as if they are real players, etc), and customizing your server to > > provide the experience your players want. Or locking players in place > while > > certain players rush around to collect the gift drops, if those players > > didn't opt in to that experience. > > > > We just want to locate game servers that are clearly abusing players. We > > don't need to draw a bright line because we don't plan to go near it, > > wherever it may be. > > > > - Fletch > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of E. Olsen > > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 11:34 AM > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > Subject: Re: [hlds] About the TF2 in-game abuse reporting tool > > > > That's a valid question - an abuse reporting system has been put in > place, > > without telling the users what consittutes abuse (which I think would > lead > > to many more false reports than not). Some guidelines (both for users and > > server operators) might be beneficial, both to keep down the number of > > nuisance reports, AND help the server operators to stay in compliance. > It's > > all well and good to say that Valve reserves the right to ban > servers/IP's > > for abuse, but without knowing what the rules/guidelines are, it's giving > > operators an invisible line and telling us "don't cross this". > > On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:18 PM, <[email protected]<mailto: > [email protected]>> > > wrote: > > What is considered as abusive behaviour? > > ___________________________________________________________ > > SMS schreiben mit WEB.DE<http://WEB.DE> FreeMail - einfach, schnell und > > kostenguenstig. 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