How do you know it's unencrypted?

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:26 PM, dmex <dme...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Don't worry, He'll be fine after his nappy gets changed  ;)
>
> I am a bit annoyed Gabe didn't mention all the unencrypted personal
> information stored on the same Steam database the hackers now have, It's
> more than enough to pull off really good social engineering/phishing
> attacks
> and maybe even some ID theft.
>
> At minimum your Steam account contains the following unencrypted personal
> details:
> First & Last name, Date of birth, Billing address, City, State, Zipcode,
> Country and telephone number.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of msleeper
> Sent: Friday, 11 November 2011 8:59 AM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Valve Security Breach
>
> Never has a more irrational or reactionary mail been posted to this list.
>
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Dan <needa...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > On 10/11/2011 23:55, DontWannaName! wrote:
> >>
> >> If you haven't noticed, most credit card companies have very good
> >> fraud prevention now. What's the worst they can do? I mean it's bad,
> >> but really not the end of the world. You guys are just causing
> >> unneeded drama about an issue that they are handling internally.
> >
> > It's not the end of the world, no. That was May 21st. And again in
> October.
> >
> > The end of the world I can handle, I've lived through enough, but it
> > is the end of steam as a viable service I can trust.
> >
> > It wasn't that long ago Gabe was giving away his password with a kind
> > of "hack me if you can" bravado to advertise Steam Guard (and clearly
> > from myriad internet posts many think Steam is secure because of it)
> >
> > But it isn't.
> >
> > There's only one game dev / publisher that has a database that has my
> > name, address, CC info and anything of value attached to it.
> > That one is Steam.
> >
> > So, one by one, as other developers have been hacked, I've been
> > thinking "At least it's not steam, if they get that, I'm outta here"
> >
> > But I see nowhere to go forwards. Gabe's "we'll reopen the forums
> > asap" I find almost unbelievably trite as though he's hoping so long
> > as we can argue about how overpowered the heavy is/isn't next week
> > we'll carry on regardless as though nothing happened :/
> >
> > The way I see it, either Valve were incompetent (unlikely since I'm
> > sure Gabe said in interview they'd looked at their systems after the
> > other companies were hacked like Sony and so on) or you cannot secure
> > a system no matter how competent you are.
> >
> > Either way, I may as well just take cash to the store or find a
> > different hobby.
> > If I get mugged on the way there or back, at least I might get a
> > description of who did it.
> >
> > --
> > Dan
> >
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