I will guarantee you can get Hobo up and working on Windows XP or Windows 7
using SQLite3 in 30 minutes using Chapter 1 of Rapid Rails with Hobo, or I
will help you myself. :-)    Most of that time is waiting for the
downloads.   Then you can use the instructions on MySQL or Oracle in the
same chapter.

(I have actually started from scratch installing Ruby 1.9.1 to Hobo using a
stopwatch.  Again, most of the time was spent waiting for the gems and doc
to download from gemcutter.

I have a different opinion based upon my own history.  Start with Hobo first
and do a few of the tutorials.  That will give you the confidence that you
CAN build something before going deeper into rails.  That was the philosphy
of the first book.

-Owen



On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Zooper <[email protected]> wrote:

> You are pretty much in my situation.  I need to develop quick
> application prototyps for clients.  I have years of programming and
> database design experience, but had never used Rails and only played
> with Ruby.  I have some HTML skills, but I never developed a database
> driven web application before.   My first prototype was so successful
> that the client decided it was good enough to use in production.
> With the Rapid Rails book and some help from this group, I was able to
> become productive very quickly.
>
> Hobo/Rails is not a tool for non-programmers. Once you get the Model
> View Controller idea anyone with knowledge of HTML should be able to
> learn DRYML quickly and any programmer using modern languages should
> be able to learn Ruby without much trouble.  I am not implying that it
> is easy to quickly become a "good" Ruby or DRYML programmer, but you
> can quckly become funcional enough to develop professional looking
> applications in Hobo/Rails.
>
> One warning I have is that I wasted a lot of time getting my
> develoment environment working on Windows 7 with MySQL.  At first, I
> gave up and used Ubuntu on a virtual machine usng Sun's VirtualBox.
> Over time I figured out how to get things working in Windows 7, but it
> really wasn't worth the time.
>
> On Mar 1, 9:07 pm, b2solutions <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The screencast is compelling, but I'm not a solid rails programmer at
> > this point. Anyone have an opinion about whether I should spend my
> > time making sure I'm up to speed on rails before looking at Hobo.
> > Maybe giving Hobo a shot without the rails background will make it
> > easier to accept Hobo concepts and go with them.
> >
> > My main reason for wanting to work with rails and/or hobo is to rapid
> > development of working web app prototypes for clients. I'm solid in
> > some other areas of programming; so I'm hoping I'll be able to get my
> > head around rails/hobo just haven't had the time to work with them
> > yet.
> >
> > Hoping to learn from the varsity team. Thanks.
>
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