Google has definitely downgraded the features of some of its acquired
technology (think Writely -> Google Docs and [mumble] -> Google Sites) as
well as failed to enhance some of its own offerings over time as one might
have expected.

Al



On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Owen Dall <[email protected]> wrote:

> kevin, good idea, we should come up with another resource linked to this
> group. Something in-between the full recipes in the Cookbook.
>
> Perhaps a "Solutions" section that is less intimidating to a would-be
> contributor than what we might expect in the  "Recipes" section.
>
> Of course, we could just reset expectations and use the "Recipes"  section.
>
> I will take the initiative to take a couple of days to get something
> rolling if others will put some ideas forward!
>
> -Owen
>
>
> Part of the problem, as we have vented before, is the surprising lack of
> features provided by Google Groups given all the technology we know they
> have. ; -)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:34 PM, kevinpfromnm <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> could something like those answers systems where good answers get
>> bumped up and common questions can be merged... well, not here
>> obviously
>>
>> On Jul 28, 1:03 pm, Owen Dall <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Exactly...
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Albert Chou <[email protected]
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Starting to veer off topic:  for years I've wanted and tried to work
>> on Q&A
>> > > systems so it would be easier to get questions (especially FAQ's)
>> answered
>> > > via machine as much as possible.  Here's a perfect example of what
>> such a
>> > > system was for.
>> >
>> > > Al
>> >
>> > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > >> I have been very impressed by how quickly members of the group jump
>> in
>> > >> to help on most issues.  It is very gratifying to be involved with
>> > >> such a talented group!
>> >
>> > >> I wish I could take a month or to off just to help catalog and index
>> > >> all the great solutions in a way that would benefit the group the
>> > >> most.
>> >
>> > >> -Owen
>> >
>> > >> On Jul 27, 4:31 pm, Albert Chou <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > >> > Community is of paramount importance in the Apache Software
>> Foundation's
>> > >> way
>> > >> > of working, so bravo to Hobo for being similarly inclined!
>>  Sometimes it
>> > >> can
>> > >> > be annoying to have to worry about community support rather than
>> just
>> > >> code
>> > >> > quality, but ultimately, code without a community will die on the
>> vine.
>> >
>> > >> > Al
>> >
>> > >> > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Chris Apolzon <[email protected]>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > > Matt-
>> > >> > >   On behalf of all the lowly leechers and users of the team's
>> > >> framework,
>> > >> > > we'd like to say thank YOU.  You have made it all happen, and
>> although
>> > >> there
>> > >> > > are a few outliers who may think its not beautiful, Hobo is a
>> > >> wonderfully
>> > >> > > useful and extremely well-supported project.  I can't tell you
>> how
>> > >> happy I
>> > >> > > get when I see that you or any other core contributor responds to
>> > >> someone's
>> > >> > > post.
>> > >> > >   And it never seems to matter the level of complexity in the
>> > >> question. It
>> > >> > > would be so easy to look at the cursory questions and say, "oh
>> someone
>> > >> else
>> > >> > > will figure that one out".
>> >
>> > >> > > And now I end this rambling smattering of compliments and return
>> to
>> > >> the
>> > >> > > real world to do "work".
>> >
>> > >> > > Thanks again!
>> >
>> > >> > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Matt Jones <[email protected]>
>> > >> wrote:
>> >
>> > >> > >> Found in passing whilst tracking down the Sam Ruby talk's
>> slides:
>> >
>> > >>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/tumbolia/browse_thread/thread/4a5e8ed2...
>> >
>> > >> > >> Relevant quote:
>> >
>> > >> > >>  It slowly occurred to me that free software misses the point,
>> and so
>> > >> does
>> > >> > >>> open source. It isn’t about enforcing freedoms and political
>> > >> agendas. It
>> > >> > >>> isn’t about more eyes for shallow bugs. It’s about community.
>> > >> Without a
>> > >> > >>> throng of decent, friendly people who are open to new ideas,
>> > >> discussion, and
>> > >> > >>> who enjoy collaborating and helping each other, a project like
>> this
>> > >> is
>> > >> > >>> nothing. A good community can make up for poor documentation,
>> and
>> > >> lack of
>> > >> > >>> features. A good community can make up for anything!
>> >
>> > >> > >> As we continue to improve the Hobo docs and fix bugs, I wanted
>> to
>> > >> thank
>> > >> > >> everyone on the list for making the Hobo community work well.
>> Even
>> > >> the folks
>> > >> > >> who are just starting out and post, "It hurts when I do *this*!"
>> are
>> > >> more
>> > >> > >> helpful than I can explain.
>> >
>> > >> > >> Thanks again to everybody! :)
>> >
>> > >> > >> --Matt Jones
>> >
>> > >> > >> (PS: it's all "Deadliest Catch"'s fault. Watching the aftermath
>> of
>> > >> the
>> > >> > >> (real) death of a person you've seen on TV for six years is
>> enough to
>> > >> make
>> > >> > >> anybody a little misty. :) )
>> >
>> > >> > >> --
>> >
>> > > --
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>> >
>> > Owen Dall, Chief Systems Architect
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