Yes, $work can rally get in the way. : -) Hope you guys can get a few cycles to pursue this. I will gladly contribute whatever I can that would be useful.
-Owen On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Henry Baragar < [email protected]> wrote: > I think that what is needed is a more structured book on how to use Hobo. > The > Agility Tutorial gives a good taste of Hobo, the Recipes book gives a good > bunch of examples, the @Work book is a decent reference manual. But there > is > nothing that gives a good architectural or contextual view of Hobo, and of > how > to go about constructing a Hobo application based on theory and not > mimicry. > > Matt and I tossed around a few ideas at RailsConf and said we would get > together later to start fleshing things out. $work and a couple of other > projects have prevented me from pursuing this idea. > > Regards, > Henry > > > On July 28, 2010 06:29:16 pm Owen Dall wrote: > > kevin, good idea, we should come up with another resource linked to this > > group. Something in-between the full recipes in the Cookbook. > > > > Perhaps a "Solutions" section that is less intimidating to a would-be > > contributor than what we might expect in the "Recipes" section. > > > > Of course, we could just reset expectations and use the "Recipes" > section. > > > > I will take the initiative to take a couple of days to get something > > rolling if others will put some ideas forward! > > > > -Owen > > > > > > Part of the problem, as we have vented before, is the surprising lack of > > features provided by Google Groups given all the technology we know they > > have. ; -) > > > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 4:34 PM, kevinpfromnm <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > could something like those answers systems where good answers get > > > bumped up and common questions can be merged... well, not here > > > obviously > > > > > > On Jul 28, 1:03 pm, Owen Dall <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Exactly... > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Albert Chou < > [email protected] > > > > > > > >wrote: > > > > > Starting to veer off topic: for years I've wanted and tried to > work > > > > > on > > > > > > Q&A > > > > > > > > systems so it would be easier to get questions (especially FAQ's) > > > > > > answered > > > > > > > > via machine as much as possible. Here's a perfect example of what > > > > > such > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > system was for. > > > > > > > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Owen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> I have been very impressed by how quickly members of the group > jump > > > > >> in to help on most issues. It is very gratifying to be involved > > > > >> with such a talented group! > > > > >> > > > > >> I wish I could take a month or to off just to help catalog and > index > > > > >> all the great solutions in a way that would benefit the group the > > > > >> most. > > > > >> > > > > >> -Owen > > > > >> > > > > >> On Jul 27, 4:31 pm, Albert Chou <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > Community is of paramount importance in the Apache Software > > > > > > Foundation's > > > > > > > >> way > > > > >> > > > > >> > of working, so bravo to Hobo for being similarly inclined! > > > > > > Sometimes it > > > > > > > >> can > > > > >> > > > > >> > be annoying to have to worry about community support rather than > > > > > > just > > > > > > > >> code > > > > >> > > > > >> > quality, but ultimately, code without a community will die on > the > > > > > > vine. > > > > > > > >> > Al > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:35 AM, Chris Apolzon < > [email protected]> > > > > >> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > Matt- > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > On behalf of all the lowly leechers and users of the team's > > > > >> > > > > >> framework, > > > > >> > > > > >> > > we'd like to say thank YOU. You have made it all happen, and > > > > > > although > > > > > > > >> there > > > > >> > > > > >> > > are a few outliers who may think its not beautiful, Hobo is a > > > > >> > > > > >> wonderfully > > > > >> > > > > >> > > useful and extremely well-supported project. I can't tell you > > > > >> > > how > > > > >> > > > > >> happy I > > > > >> > > > > >> > > get when I see that you or any other core contributor responds > > > > >> > > to > > > > >> > > > > >> someone's > > > > >> > > > > >> > > post. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > And it never seems to matter the level of complexity in the > > > > >> > > > > >> question. It > > > > >> > > > > >> > > would be so easy to look at the cursory questions and say, "oh > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > >> else > > > > >> > > > > >> > > will figure that one out". > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > And now I end this rambling smattering of compliments and > return > > > > > > to > > > > > > > >> the > > > > >> > > > > >> > > real world to do "work". > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Thanks again! > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Matt Jones < > [email protected]> > > > > >> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > >> Found in passing whilst tracking down the Sam Ruby talk's > slides: > > > > >> > http://groups.google.com/group/tumbolia/browse_thread/thread/4a5e8ed2 > > > > >>. > > > > > > .. > > > > > > > >> > >> Relevant quote: > > > > >> > >> It slowly occurred to me that free software misses the > point, > > > > > > and so > > > > > > > >> does > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> open source. It isn’t about enforcing freedoms and political > > > > >> > > > > >> agendas. It > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> isn’t about more eyes for shallow bugs. It’s about > community. > > > > >> > > > > >> Without a > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> throng of decent, friendly people who are open to new ideas, > > > > >> > > > > >> discussion, and > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> who enjoy collaborating and helping each other, a project > like > > > > > > this > > > > > > > >> is > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> nothing. A good community can make up for poor > documentation, > > > > > > and > > > > > > > >> lack of > > > > >> > > > > >> > >>> features. A good community can make up for anything! > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> As we continue to improve the Hobo docs and fix bugs, I > wanted > > > > >> > >> to > > > > >> > > > > >> thank > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> everyone on the list for making the Hobo community work well. > > > > > > Even > > > > > > > >> the folks > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> who are just starting out and post, "It hurts when I do > > > > >> > >> *this*!" > > > > > > are > > > > > > > >> more > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> helpful than I can explain. > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> Thanks again to everybody! :) > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> --Matt Jones > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> (PS: it's all "Deadliest Catch"'s fault. Watching the > aftermath > > > > > > of > > > > > > > >> the > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> (real) death of a person you've seen on TV for six years is > > > > > > enough to > > > > > > > >> make > > > > >> > > > > >> > >> anybody a little misty. :) ) > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> -- > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Nothing is impossible to the person who doesn't have to do it > > > > > himself. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > > Groups > > > > > > > > "Hobo Users" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > [email protected]<hobousers%[email protected]> > <hobousers%2bunsubscr...@google > > > > > groups.com> > > > > > > <hobousers%[email protected]<hobousers%[email protected]> > <hobousers%252bunsubscr...@googl > > > egroups.com> > > > > > > > > . > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/hobousers?hl=en. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > - Owen > > > > > > > > Owen Dall, Chief Systems Architect > > > > Barquin International > > > > Cell: 410-991-0811 > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "Hobo Users" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<hobousers%[email protected]> > <hobousers%2bunsubscr...@googlegrou > > > ps.com> . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > http://groups.google.com/group/hobousers?hl=en. > > -- > Henry Baragar > Instantiated Software > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Hobo Users" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<hobousers%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/hobousers?hl=en. > > -- - Owen Owen Dall, Chief Systems Architect Barquin International Cell: 410-991-0811 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hobo Users" group. 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