Hi Bob,

Well I've decided to use Aptana Studio 3 with the RadRails plugin already 
included as a "Stand Alone" package.  Although it starts up kinda slow (very 
much like Eclipse...wonder if they're using it?) it does work rather well.  I 
especially appreciate the fact that unlike previous versions of Aptana, the 
terminal window now works for all of the normal hobo commands.  I really like 
the fact that the terminal window "defaults" to the directory used as the 
project directory for the "last loaded project".  Very nice!  Anyway...I'm 
currently going through the latest Rapid Rails Beta book and actually doing all 
of the practice apps in the book as part of my education.  Although Aptana 
Studio 3 seems to work ok with OpenJDK, there is a warning on their website 
that it won't work with OpenJDK...only with Sun's Java JDK.  So, if I run into 
trouble I might try Sun's version.  Thanks for your help.

Sincerely,

Arthur Baldwin



________________________________
 From: Bob Sleys <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Cc: Arthur Baldwin <[email protected]> 
Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Hobo Users] Need an IDE for Hobo & Rails
 

MS Access, been there done that,  ya it's a single user environment.  However I 
wasn't talking about Access when I mentioned MS Developer.  I was talking about 
MS Visual Studio.  I know most here on this forum arn't gong to be big fans of 
MS products however IF what you customers want is desktop MDI apps then they 
are using Windows and Visual Studio really is your best choice.  Note the big 
IF.  Personally I've had limited success with moving clients away from Windows 
on their desktops but I've had great success moving away from desktop apps to 
web apps.  Linux is the server environment has always been king no matter what 
MS fans have been trying to tell the world.  MS may own the desktop for now but 
Linux owns servers.  By moving to web apps over desktop apps you no longer care 
what OS they use on their desktops since everything is run in side the browser.

So to summarize IMHO IF your clients want/need desktop apps, windows desktop 
apps, I'd go with MS Visual Studio written in C# with MS SQL server 
or really any real DB back-end but most defiantly NOT MS Access. I know it's 
expensive but if forced into that environment it's really they only choice IMHO.

IF you can move to web apps then I'd go with RubyMine, RadRails or Titanium.  
I'd use the standalone versions of each not the plugins.  It avoids all those 
plugin problems with Eclipse. I've used all 3 including Netbeans and other 
"text" editors in the past.  Currently my favorite is Titanium but 
only because of the potential to do mobile apps.  Titanium 
is essentially RadRails with the mobile app development thrown in for free.  If 
I wasn't thinking about some mobile apps in the near future I'd stick with 
RubyMine it beats RadRals and Titanium in pure ruby/rails development by a 
slight margin IMHO.

To setup any of the above 3 just install OpenJDK from the Ubuntu software 
center. Download the packages for the IDE's and untar/unzip them in a dir of 
you home dir.  Then simply create a menu item pointing to the startup script.  
None of the 3 include an install but simply unpack and run from the unpacked 
dirs no setup required.

Bob

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