Just curious about how snappy you have found these IDEs? I own a copy of 
RubyMine, have used Eclipse since version 0.9, but inevitably do most of my 
work in Textmate or vim because I find the IDEs sluggish, even on fast, high 
spec laptops and desktops. Perhaps my expectations are unreasonable?

What has your experience been?

Peter

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On Dec 28, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Arthur Baldwin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Bob,
> 
> Well I've decided to use Aptana Studio 3 with the RadRails plugin already 
> included as a "Stand Alone" package.  Although it starts up kinda slow (very 
> much like Eclipse...wonder if they're using it?) it does work rather well.  I 
> especially appreciate the fact that unlike previous versions of Aptana, the 
> terminal window now works for all of the normal hobo commands.  I really like 
> the fact that the terminal window "defaults" to the directory used as the 
> project directory for the "last loaded project".  Very nice!  Anyway...I'm 
> currently going through the latest Rapid Rails Beta book and actually doing 
> all of the practice apps in the book as part of my education.  Although 
> Aptana Studio 3 seems to work ok with OpenJDK, there is a warning on their 
> website that it won't work with OpenJDK...only with Sun's Java JDK.  So, if I 
> run into trouble I might try Sun's version.  Thanks for your help.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Arthur Baldwin
> 
> From: Bob Sleys <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected] 
> Cc: Arthur Baldwin <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Monday, December 26, 2011 6:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Hobo Users] Need an IDE for Hobo & Rails
> 
> MS Access, been there done that,  ya it's a single user environment.  However 
> I wasn't talking about Access when I mentioned MS Developer.  I was talking 
> about MS Visual Studio.  I know most here on this forum arn't gong to be big 
> fans of MS products however IF what you customers want is desktop MDI apps 
> then they are using Windows and Visual Studio really is your best choice.  
> Note the big IF.  Personally I've had limited success with moving clients 
> away from Windows on their desktops but I've had great success moving away 
> from desktop apps to web apps.  Linux is the server environment has always 
> been king no matter what MS fans have been trying to tell the world.  MS may 
> own the desktop for now but Linux owns servers.  By moving to web apps over 
> desktop apps you no longer care what OS they use on their desktops since 
> everything is run in side the browser.
> 
> So to summarize IMHO IF your clients want/need desktop apps, windows desktop 
> apps, I'd go with MS Visual Studio written in C# with MS SQL server or really 
> any real DB back-end but most defiantly NOT MS Access. I know it's expensive 
> but if forced into that environment it's really they only choice IMHO.
> 
> IF you can move to web apps then I'd go with RubyMine, RadRails or Titanium.  
> I'd use the standalone versions of each not the plugins.  It avoids all those 
> plugin problems with Eclipse. I've used all 3 including Netbeans and other 
> "text" editors in the past.  Currently my favorite is Titanium but only 
> because of the potential to do mobile apps.  Titanium is essentially RadRails 
> with the mobile app development thrown in for free.  If I wasn't thinking 
> about some mobile apps in the near future I'd stick with RubyMine it beats 
> RadRals and Titanium in pure ruby/rails development by a slight margin IMHO.
> 
> To setup any of the above 3 just install OpenJDK from the Ubuntu software 
> center. Download the packages for the IDE's and untar/unzip them in a dir of 
> you home dir.  Then simply create a menu item pointing to the startup script. 
>  None of the 3 include an install but simply unpack and run from the unpacked 
> dirs no setup required.
> 
> Bob
> 
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