Dear Jeremy,

I really appreciate your reply. However, the following sentence in my
question email is not my conclusion.

>> Here, a and c are independant, also b and c are independant.    
>> However,  a depends b.

It is the assumption. As I wrote in the goal,
(indep bern a c) /\ (indep bern b c) means "a and c are independant,
also b and c are independant", and a depends b; With this assumption,
I tried to prove
(prob bern (a INTER b INTER c) = prob bern (a INTER b) * prob bern c)`;

I think it doesn't contradict with the case that a, b, c are
independant, since "prob bern (a INTER b) = prob bern a * prob bern b"
in this case. And "prob bern (a INTER b INTER c) = prob bern a * prob
bern b * prob bern c" is true.

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For sure, your example is very instructive, though events A, B, C are
independant there and this is not the case that I wanted to prove.

I'm not sure if I got your point or not. If not, please give me some
more explanation.

Thanks again!

Liya

Quoting Jeremy Dawson <[email protected]>:

>
> [email protected] wrote:
>> I have to prove a goal in HOL4 as following:
>>
>> g `!a b c. (indep bern a c) /\ (indep bern b c) ==>
>>       (a IN events bern) /\ (b IN events bern) /\ (c IN events bern) /\
>>       (prob bern (a INTER b INTER c) = prob bern (a INTER b) * prob  
>>   bern c)`;
>>
>> Here, a and c are independant, also b and c are independant.    
>> However,  a depends b.
>>
>> Could anybody give me some hints? I really appreciate!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Liya
>>
> I can't guess what bern and events mean, but if prob and indep have a
> usual meaning, then it's not true.
>
> eg let 3 coins, X, Y, Z be tossed independently.
>
> Let event A be coins X and Y fall the same way
>
> Let event B be coins X and Z fall the same way
>
> Let event C be coins Z and Y fall the same way
>
> Then each two of the three events A,B,C are independent.  But A & B is
> not independent of C (which is what, I understand, the last line of
> your conclusion says)
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeremy




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