>~~~
>that's part of it ...
>MTness is MTness and Form forms Form as well.
>~~~

:-)


>~~~
>or as mick and the boyz say:
>ti ... iii .. ii ... ime ...
>is on my side ...
>yes it is ...
>~~~

:-)
Rolling Stones, the Beatles
and an MP3 Player (Ogg Vorbis player) or laptop
and mosquitoes - what more do we need . . .


>btw ...
>harmon, yosy and i did a 2.5 hr encore friday afternoon ...
>it was fun!!!
>or is that ...
>it IS fun?
>
>c u there

Gluttony!

:-)



>different chat rooms or so?? Sam
>
>still 23 minutes to go ...
>noon GMT ...
>but will go log on now if you want to try again.

Well you got there Sam :-)
the problem is GMT (also known as Z or Zulu TIme)
even in London is one hour behind
British Summer TIme

There is another time called 'Beat time'
and it is wonderful but we need to be sponsored by Swatch
before I say any more . . .



>Subject: ;-(  ;-(  ;-(  ;-(  ;-(
>
>whaaaaaaahhhhh!!!!!
>
>i just lost every saved conversation i had
>with every person on every yahoo group over
>the last 3 years!!!!!!!!!!!
>all my yahoo group files are history.
>
>(fire up that time machine lob!!!
>i'm goin' in)
>
>how?

Gosh.
I know that feeling.
I have lost more files through backing up then I have ever recalled . . .

What interests me is why this happened?
I have a feeling it is behind the scenes caching

Naughty.

What MS do is report that files are copied
WHEN they are still being copied in the background . . .

Happened to me a few times with XP and USB sticks . . .


>ah well ...
>as i'm always saying ...
>"let it go"
>"just put it down"
> "be here now."

All very well being profound
in theory (well that is my theory)


>went to:
>http://www.active-undelete.com/
>and found some great recovery software.


we could do with a wiki of HG tips . . .


>Hi Geeks -
> 
>I posted the below elsewhere earlier, and before posting graphics, i always convert 
>and compress them (usually from jpg to gif or png). 
> 
>This one gave me a lot of adventure that has never happened before. The jpg here is 
>39k (the original hi res is more than 3MB). 
> 
>When i tried to convert to gif and compress, the file size INCREASED from 39k to more 
>than 220k. I tried it with the same four graphics programs i always use and they ALL 
>resulted in a file more than 5 times larger than the original one. 
> 
>What's up with that? Anyone know? I have been compressing graphics for years and 
>never had this happen.


>
>jpg IS what is used for compressing files.
>that is its purpose.
>gif is not compressed.
>and even tho only 256 colors ...
>as opposed to the 16 million of a jpg ...
>they are always larger then jpg. ime.
>i just tried it on a number of jpg ...
>and they all increased by a factor of 4 or 5.
>
>so ...
>now i am confused. ;)
>is there such a thing as a compressed gif?
>i don't have one in paintshop pro.
>
>-ts-

There are 3 main formats that are sufficient for most of us

gifs
jpg (also called jpeg)
and PNG

(you might need tifs too for professional output)


- Gif is used for solid icons, simple colour graphics
 and for transparent images
where you do not want a border.

If you convert a jpeg to a gif
the gif will grow because it is designed for simple colours (that is without shades
- it can display shades and small pics OK but is not always ideal)

You can also animate gifs.

Jpg was created for compressing photos and it is very good at that
it looks for fractal patterns that it can code with a few numbers
- so it is very good at large photos and very complex images - you can also
decide how much compression to put into the image.

If you do too much compression the image starts to become blocky . . .

PNG is a combination of the best (compression) of Jpeg with the animation
and transparency of Gifs

The images can be a little bigger (and I do just mean a few k)
and not all freeware supports it - but it is of course the future)

Hope that makes some sense  . . .

Lob



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