>>>>> "Dave" == Dave Taht <[email protected]> writes:
    >> 
    >>    Jim> I don't think that is the only place where we may have such
    >>    Jim> issues; SNMP comes to mind, but I don't know how commonly that
    >>    Jim> is used in home environments.  - Jim
    >> 
    >> SNMP is unused in home networks.
    >> I don't know why there is any issue with SNMP though.
    >> 

    Dave> The elephant in the room is that we no longer have E2E connectivity in
    Dave> much of the world, so centralized polling utilities
    Dave> such as those that use snmp, can't work through the multiple layers 
of NAT.

    Dave> The edge has gone dark.

I think the edge never had any light :-)

    Dave> I wouldn't claim that snmp is unused in home networks, but it is
    Dave> sorely underused, as the relevant monitoring utilities are complex to
    Dave> setup and maintain.

    Dave> I've been explicitly enabling snmp over ipv6, I note, and using tools
    Dave> such as those available from 'dartware'

I agree --- I've put IPv6 (non-connected networks) into a number of data
centre operations specifically so that I could use SNMP.  I am not
familiar with dartware... is it: http://www.intermapper.com/

I think that E2E into the home for SNMP is perhaps one of the things
that would motivate an ISP to support homenet.

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