> -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Thomas [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 11:51 AM > To: Dan Wing > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [homenet] I have a problem > > On 05/07/2012 11:39 AM, Dan Wing wrote: > > ... > >> Well, people already use vpn's on the road and in evil places now, > >> it's just that they're doing it through a corpro vpn back at the > >> mothership. > >> I just want to be able to have the same choice when I'm doing this > on > >> my own dime. As it stands, I can't do that for all intents and > >> purposes. > > Apple's Back to My Mac, Microsoft's DirectAccess, and the SIP > > VPN method all rely on one important thing: a rendezvous service. > > Apple's solution is aimed at consumers and uses Apple's me.com > > domain. Microsoft's solution is aimed at corporate users and > > uses IT-operated servers. The SIP VPN method uses SIP proxies. > > We could imagine someone specifying XMPP for such a thing, too. > > > > But the prototypical "Grandma" does not have access to a > > rendezvous service, unless she participates in the Apple > > ecosystem (and uses Apple's me.com as the rendezvous service). > > > > I don't know how to make one of these systems work without a > > rendezvous service, and it seems nobody else does, either -- > > all of them rely on some sort of rendezvous service that is > > separate from the service provided by the typical residential > > ISP. > > > > Ah, but a lot of that thinking seems to be rooted in the v4 > mindset where home ip addresses are ephemeral, right? In a v6 > world, why can't I just put a AAAA record in some name server > just like everything else on the net that wants to be reached > by name, since the IP subnet I have at home doesn't have to > change on a regular basis due to the need to recycle v4 > addresses? > > No nat, no dhcp*, no other hacks simplifies this a lot it seems > to me. > > Mike > > [*] in the rotating ip address sense, not in the discovery sense.
If the subscriber's IP address really is static, the subscriber can avoid DNS entirely, and just put their static IPv6 (or IPv4) address into their portable computing device (tablet, PC, whatever) and they're done. That way, the user doesn't need to know how to edit a zone file or beg their ISP for a FQDN. That leaves the user with the complication of configuring a VPN on their consumer-grade router and on their portable computing device (table, PC, whatever). Still pretty hard. There are small/medium business routers that support VPN, and could do this already for IPv4. Many of them probably lack IPv6 support yet, though. -d _______________________________________________ homenet mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet
