On 31/07/2012 17:59, Michael Richardson wrote:
>>>>>> "Brian" == Brian E Carpenter <Brian> writes:
>     >> I'm also surprised that we think we have to cope with flash renumbering
>     >> as a regular event, rather than a service-interrupting, ISP truck roll
>     >> catastrophy. 
> 
>     Brian> But every time you reboot your antiquated v4-only CPE and/or the 
> antiquated
>     Brian> v4-only PCs behind it, the PCs all get new IP addresses, which may 
> or
>     Brian> may not be the same as the previous time. There's nothing new in 
> flash
>     Brian> renumbering for homenets. Not handling this would be a step
>     Brian> backwards.
> 
> Well... 
> 
> 1) sure, but the *customer* does this, not the ISP.
> 2) the clients do have DHCP leases, and if they ask to renew their
>    previous IP, it usually gets honored.

It doesn't matter whether it's the user or the ISP that triggers
a change, does it?

The point is, users don't care about this, except if they reach their
shiny new wireless printer via its IP static address. There are definitely
parts of draft-ietf-6renum-static-problem that apply here.

   Brian

> 
> In IPv6 space, the host part will generally stay the same (modulo
> privacy extensions, which are default on for some clients).  We've said
> that the ULA ought to stay the same, so in fact, I agree, the internal
> addresses actually all stay the same.
> 
> I'm still surprised that an ISP will need to flash renumber faster than
> it can just expire leases.  If it's just repartitioning of network to
> deal with growth, that ought to be predictable and prefix lifetimes can
> be reduced in advance.  
> 
> If it's actually some equipment failing, resulting in service
> interruptions, and then restoration by rewiring the network... then I
> understand.  
> 
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