>>>>> "Brian" == Brian E Carpenter <Brian> writes:
    Brian> But every time you reboot your antiquated v4-only CPE and/or the 
antiquated
    Brian> v4-only PCs behind it, the PCs all get new IP addresses, which may or
    Brian> may not be the same as the previous time. There's nothing new in 
flash
    Brian> renumbering for homenets. Not handling this would be a step
    Brian> backwards.

    >> Well... 
    >> 
    >> 1) sure, but the *customer* does this, not the ISP.
    >> 2) the clients do have DHCP leases, and if they ask to renew their
    >> previous IP, it usually gets honored.

    Brian> It doesn't matter whether it's the user or the ISP that triggers
    Brian> a change, does it?

It does.
When the customer power cycles their device, everything starts again.
They know they did this.

If the ISP renegs on the lifetimes of the leases, and wants to flash
renumber the customer, either:
  a) there is protocol for forcing the renumbering (does 6renum provide
     this?)
  b) the customer is offline until *they* reboot their device.

    Brian> The point is, users don't care about this, except if they reach their
    Brian> shiny new wireless printer via its IP static address. There are 
definitely
    Brian> parts of draft-ietf-6renum-static-problem that apply here.

okay, I'll read it.
But, the printer is addressed as "printer.local", and is reached with
the ULA, and we agreed that having this work regardless of whether or
not the ISP was alive was in-scope.


-- 
Michael Richardson <[email protected]>, Sandelman Software Works 
IETF ROLL WG co-chair.    http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/roll/charter/

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